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Aryan if thats the case, then why were there Jews and Muslims living together, before Israel was 'bought'? It has nothing to do with religion, its all about Israel, and the way they are treating the Palestinians. Yes we get it they 'only' kill 'terrorists' or they gave out papers saying they were going to attack!! Who would do that?! Such noble people!!:rolleyes:

Atilla, why do you expect people to believe you, when you dont even believe them, when they actually show EVIDENCE, from more than one site, which isn't bias btw?

repeating something over and over again will not make it right…
True, so can you practice what you preach?!
 

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$hiftyIceQueen said:
Aryan if thats the case, then why were there Jews and Muslims living together, before Israel was 'bought'? It has nothing to do with religion, its all about Israel, and the way they are treating the Palestinians. Yes we get it they 'only' kill 'terrorists' or they gave out papers saying they were going to attack!! Who would do that?! Such noble people!!:rolleyes:

Atilla, why do you expect people to believe you, when you dont even believe them, when they actually show EVIDENCE, from more than one site, which isn't bias btw?



True, so can you practice what you preach?!
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$hiftyIceQueen said:
Aryan if thats the case, then why were there Jews and Muslims living together, before Israel was 'bought'? It has nothing to do with religion, its all about Israel, and the way they are treating the Palestinians. Yes we get it they 'only' kill 'terrorists' or they gave out papers saying they were going to attack!! Who would do that?! Such noble people!!:rolleyes:
If you are going to complain about Israeli treatment of Palestinian because you sympathise with Plaestinian cause then why not include Lebanese treatment of Palestinian? After all you call them your arab brothers yet treat them like slaves? Such noble brotherhood?
 

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That is because it wasn't theirs to sell!!! The Zionist Jews bought it off the owners who were located in the Ottoman Empire. The Palestinians were renting teh land.



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Which means Arabs palestinians were NOT the owner after all! They were just tenants. I dont remember tenants having the ownership of a land or property he rented, and definitely not in Australia.
 
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If you are going to complain about Israeli treatment of Palestinian because you sympathise with Plaestinian cause then why not include Lebanese treatment of Palestinian? After all you call them your arab brothers yet treat them like slaves? Such noble brotherhood?
Whose fault was it in the first place? Lebanons? Yeah its probably all coz of the Arabs, they should let people walk into their homes and take over without arguing.

How are they being treated as slaves?

What do the Lebs got to do with this, when the Israelis started the whole thing? You complain about others, yet you dont look at the faults within your beloved Israel.
 

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Whose fault was it in the first place? Lebanons? Yeah its probably all coz of the Arabs, they should let people walk into their homes and take over without arguing.

How are they being treated as slaves?

What do the Lebs got to do with this, when the Israelis started the whole thing? You complain about others, yet you dont look at the faults within your beloved Israel.
Being banned from all decent occupation and banished to unwanted occupation. Banned from public school and health service, banned from owning property, banished into refugee camps, treated like vermin in their own words. You are too obsessed with Israel that you arabs usually forgot how you treat your palestinian brothers in your own backyard.

If lebanon had not invaded Israel when it was formed, there would not be palestinian refugees in your backyard today in Lebanon. In Short, lebanon is just as responsible as Israel, so are Egypt, Syria and Jordan.
 
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That really doesnt tell me they're being treated as slaves. So either give me evidence they're being treated as a slave would be treated, or dont bother.
 

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$hiftyIceQueen said:
Aryan if thats the case, then why were there Jews and Muslims living together, before Israel was 'bought'? It has nothing to do with religion, its all about Israel, and the way they are treating the Palestinians. Yes we get it they 'only' kill 'terrorists' or they gave out papers saying they were going to attack!! Who would do that?! Such noble people!!:rolleyes:

Atilla, why do you expect people to believe you, when you dont even believe them, when they actually show EVIDENCE, from more than one site, which isn't bias btw?
True, so can you practice what you preach?!
SIQ, do you even read what I write. I said the website that I used contains many other sources, instead of posting 10 different sources that say the same thing, I post 1, which links to other sources, really its not hard to figure out.

Zionism has everything to do with religion, it is based on the Jewish ideal of a homeland, if you do not get that, then you clearly have no idea what Zionism is. Jews and Muslims (and Arabs) only started to live together in the mandate of Palestine when Jews starting building up their communities on land they had bought, this was because Jews offered them jobs to built these settlements up.

Yes I do practice what I preach, but the facts don't seem to sink into your head.
 
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SIQ, do you even read what I write. I said the website that I used contains many other sources, instead of posting 10 different sources that say the same thing, I post 1, which links to other sources, really its not hard to figure out.

Zionism has everything to do with religion, it is based on the Jewish ideal of a homeland, if you do not get that, then you clearly have no idea what Zionism is. Jews and Muslims (and Arabs) only started to live together in the mandate of Palestine when Jews starting building up their communities on land they had bought, this was because Jews offered them jobs to built these settlements up.

Yes I do practice what I preach, but the facts don't seem to sink into your head.
Sorry i wasnt talking about Zionism.

I was talking about Jews in general and Muslims in general; the fact that they lived together for a long time, and are still living with each other-in some areas, yet there is no problems. The main problems are in Israel and Palestine.

You mentioned the site, what about all the sites people have given? They aren't worth anything?

My head has nothing to do with you. Thank you very much.
 

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I was talking about Jews in general and Muslims in general; the fact that they lived together for a long time, and are still living with each other-in some areas, yet there is no problems. The main problems are in Israel and Palestine.
Are you talking about in the middle-east or in western countries?

If you are talking about Western countries, then I would agree with you, however if you are talking about the Middle-east, well...
Arab leaders have repeatedly made clear their animosity toward Jews and Judaism. For example, on November 23, 1937, Saudi Arabia's King Ibn Saud told British Colonel H.R.P. Dickson: "Our hatred for the Jews dates from God's condemnation of them for their persecution and rejection of Isa (Jesus) and their subsequent rejection of His chosen Prophet." He added "that for a Muslim to kill a Jew, or for him to be killed by a Jew ensures him an immediate entry into Heaven and into the august presence of God Almighty."3
When Hitler introduced the Nuremberg racial laws in 1935, he received telegrams of congratulation from all corners of the Arab world.4 Later, during the war, one of his most ardent supporters was the Mufti of Jerusalem.
Jews were never permitted to live in Jordan. Civil Law No. 6, which governed the Jordanian-occupied West Bank, states explicitly: "Any man will be a Jordanian subject if he is not Jewish."5
The Arab countries see to it that even young schoolchildren are taught to hate Jews. The Syrian Minister of Education wrote in 1968: "The hatred which we indoctrinate into the minds of our children from their birth is sacred."6
After the Six-Day War in 1967, the Israelis found public school textbooks that had been used to educate Arab children in the West Bank. They were replete with racist and hateful portrayals of Jews:
"The Jews are scattered to the ends of the earth, where they live exiled and despised, since by their nature they are vile, greedy and enemies of mankind, by their nature they were tempted to steal a land as asylum for their disgrace."7
"Analyze the following sentences:
1. The merchant himself traveled to the African continent.
2. We shall expel all the Jews from the Arab countries."8
"The Jews of our time are the descendants of the Jews who harmed the Prophet Muhammad. They betrayed him, they broke the treaty with him and joined sides with his enemies to fight him..."9
"The Jews in Europe were persecuted and despised because of their corruption, meanness and treachery."10
A 1977 Jordanian teachers' manual for first-graders used on the West Bank instructs educators to "implant in the soul of the pupil the rule of Islam that if the enemies occupy even one inch of the Islamic lands, jihad (holy war) becomes imperative for every Muslim." It also says the Jews plotted to assassinate Muhammad when he was a child. Another Jordanian text, a 1982 social studies book, claims Israel ordered the massacre of Palestinians in Sabra and Shatila during the Lebanon war, but does not mention the Christian Arabs who were the perpetrators.11
“We have found books with passages that are so anti-Semitic, that if they were published in Europe, their publishers would be brought up on anti-racism charges.”
— French lawyer and European Parliament member Francois Zimeray
commenting on Palestinian, Syrian and Egyptian texts
Jerusalem Post, (October 16, 2001).
According to a study of Syrian textbooks, "the Syrian educational system expands hatred of Israel and Zionism to anti-Semitism directed at all Jews. That anti-Semitism evokes ancient Islamic motifs to describe the unchangeable and treacherous nature of the Jews. Its inevitable conclusion is that all Jews must be annihilated."12 To cite one example, an eleventh grade textbook claims that Jews hated Muslims and were driven by envy to incite hostility against them:
The Jews spare no effort to deceive us, deny our Prophet, incite against us, and distort the holy scriptures.
The Jews cooperate with the Polytheist and the infidels against the Muslims because they know Islam reveals their crafty ways and abject characteristics.13
An Arabic translation of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf has been distributed in East Jerusalem and territories controlled by the Palestinian Authority (PA) and became a bestseller.14
Occasionally, Arab anti-Semitism surfaces at the United Nations. In March 1991, for example, a Syrian delegate to the UN Human Rights Commission read a statement recommending that commission members read "a valuable book" called The Matzoh of Zion, written by Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas. The book justifies ritual murder charges brought against the Jews in the Damascus blood libel of 1840.15 (The phrase "blood libel" refers to accusations that Jews kill Christian children to use their blood for the ritual of making matzoh at Passover.)
King Faisal of Saudi Arabia uttered a similar slander in a 1972 interview:
Israel has had malicious intentions since ancient times. Its objective is the destruction of all other religions....They regard the other religions as lower than their own and other peoples as inferior to their level. And on the subject of vengeance — they have a certain day on which they mix the blood of non-Jews into their bread and eat it. It happened that two years ago, while I was in Paris on a visit, that the police discovered five murdered children. Their blood had been drained, and it turned out that some Jews had murdered them in order to take their blood and mix it with the bread that they eat on this day. This shows you what is the extent of their hatred and malice toward non-Jewish peoples.16
On November 11, 1999, during a Gaza appearance with First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, Suha Arafat, wife of Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat stated: "Our people have been subjected to the daily and extensive use of poisonous gas by the Israeli forces, which has led to an increase in cancer cases among women and children." Similar specious allegations have been made by other Palestinian officials.17
The Arab/Muslim press, which is almost exclusively controlled by the governments in each Middle Eastern nation, regularly publish anti-Semitic articles and cartoons. Today, it remains common to find anti-Semitic publications in Egypt. For example, the establishment Al-Ahram newspaper published an article giving the "historical" background of the blood libel tradition while accusing Israel of using the blood of Palestinian children to bake matzohs up to the present time.18 Anti-Semitic articles also regularly appear in the press in Jordan and Syria. Many of the attacks deal with denial of the Holocaust, its "exploitation" by Zionism, and a comparison of Zionism and Israel to Nazism.

[SIZE=-1]Egyptian Daily Al-Ahram, (May 23, 1998)[/SIZE]​
In November 2001, a satirical skit aired on the second most popular television station in the Arab world, which depicted a character meant to be Ariel Sharon drinking the blood of Arab children as a grotesque-looking Orthodox Jew looked on. Abu Dhabi Television also aired a skit in which Dracula appears to take a bite out of Sharon, but dies because Sharon's blood is polluted. Protests that these shows were anti-Semitic were ignored by the network.19
The Palestinian Authority's media have also contained inflammatory and anti-Semitic material. A Friday sermon in the Zayed bin Sultan Aal Nahyan mosque in Gaza calling for the murder of Jews and Americans was broadcast live on the official Palestinian Authority television:
Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them and those who stand by them they are all in one trench, against the Arabs and the Muslims because they established Israel here, in the beating heart of the Arab world, in Palestine.... 20
Even Palestinian crossword puzzles are used to delegitimize Israel and attack Jews, providing clues, for example, suggesting the Jewish trait is "treachery."21

“Syrian President Bashar Assad on Saturday [May 5] offered a vivid, if vile, demonstration of why he and his government are unworthy of respect or good relations with the United States or any other democratic country. Greeting Pope John Paul II in Damascus, Mr. Assad launched an attack on Jews that may rank as the most ignorant and crude speech delivered before the pope in his two decades of travel around the world. Comparing the suffering of the Palestinians to that of Jesus Christ, Mr. Assad said that the Jews ‘tried to kill the principles of all religions with the same mentality in which they betrayed Jesus Christ and the same way they tried to betray and kill the Prophet Muhammad.’ With that libel, the Syrian president stained both his country and the pope....”
Washington Post editorial, (May 8, 2001)


While Jewish communities in Islamic countries fared better overall than those in Christian lands in Europe, Jews were no strangers to persecution and humiliation among the Arabs. As Princeton University historian Bernard Lewis has written: "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."22
Muhammad, the founder of Islam, traveled to Medina in 622 A.D. to attract followers to his new faith. When the Jews of Medina refused to recognize Muhammad as their Prophet, two of the major Jewish tribes were expelled. In 627, Muhammad's followers killed between 600 and 900 of the men, and divided the surviving Jewish women and children amongst themselves.23
The Muslim attitude toward Jews is reflected in various verses throughout the Koran, the holy book of the Islamic faith. "They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors" (Sura 2:61). According to the Koran, the Jews try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of Allah, the Prophet and the angels (2:97-98).
Jews were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Jews. In the ninth century, Baghdad's Caliph al-Mutawakkil designated a yellow badge for Jews, setting a precedent that would be followed centuries later in Nazi Germany.24
At various times, Jews in Muslim lands lived in relative peace and thrived culturally and economically. The position of the Jews was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death.
When Jews were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, anti-Semitism would surface, often with devastating results. On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.
Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.25
Other mass murders of Jews in Arab lands occurred in Morocco in the 8th century, where whole communities were wiped out by the Muslim ruler Idris I; North Africa in the 12th century, where the Almohads either forcibly converted or decimated several communities; Libya in 1785, where Ali Burzi Pasha murdered hundreds of Jews; Algiers, where Jews were massacred in 1805, 1815 and 1830; and Marrakesh, Morocco, where more than 300 hundred Jews were murdered between 1864 and 1880.26
Decrees ordering the destruction of synagogues were enacted in Egypt and Syria (1014, 1293-4, 1301-2), Iraq (854*859, 1344) and Yemen (1676). Despite the Koran's prohibition, Jews were forced to convert to Islam or face death in Yemen (1165 and 1678), Morocco (1275, 1465 and 1790-92) and Baghdad (1333 and 1344).27
The situation of Jews in Arab lands reached a low point in the 19th century. Jews in most of North Africa (including Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Morocco) were forced to live in ghettos. In Morocco, which contained the largest Jewish community in the Islamic Diaspora, Jews were made to walk barefoot or wear shoes of straw when outside the ghetto. Even Muslim children participated in the degradation of Jews, by throwing stones at them or harassing them in other ways. The frequency of anti-Jewish violence increased, and many Jews were executed on charges of apostasy. Ritual murder accusations against the Jews became commonplace in the Ottoman Empire.28
As distinguished Orientalist G.E. von Grunebaum has written:
It would not be difficult to put together the names of a very sizeable number Jewish subjects or citizens of the Islamic area who have attained to high rank, to power, to great financial influence, to significant and recognized intellectual attainment; and the same could be done for Christians. But it would again not be difficult to compile a lengthy list of persecutions, arbitrary confiscations, attempted forced conversions, or pogroms.29
The danger for Jews became even greater as a showdown approached in the UN. The Syrian delegate, Faris el-Khouri, warned: "Unless the Palestine problem is settled, we shall have difficulty in protecting and safeguarding the Jews in the Arab world."30
More than a thousand Jews were killed in anti-Jewish rioting during the 1940's in Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria and Yemen.31 This helped trigger the mass exodus of Jews from Arab countries.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#b


$hiftyIceQueen said:
You mentioned the site, what about all the sites people have given? They aren't worth anything?
I never said that, I just pointed out the mistakes of these sites, you have yet to do that with my own.

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My head has nothing to do with you. Thank you very much.
Then how can you not accept facts?
 
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Whats facts got to do with my head?

I was talking about the western society-now, and the whole world in general-past. [there are a few exceptions i know]

You're sites are nearly all bias, i was looking at some of the sources on that website, and half of them-if not more- were either by Jews, or others [who aren't living in those areas]

Also there are sources there which dont work, and others about the ways Muslims treat Jews, last i checked none of that was in the Quran. Like i read somewhere about how some "Mufti of Jerusalem" supported Hitler, wtf?! This has nothing to do with Islam, and you could go look it up if you like, you still wont find it anywhere that Muslims should go around/support people going around murdering others.

Its like me saying man the PM of Israel [PM right?] is a rapis, therefore all Israelis are rapist.

See i do read your sources, yet i still dont agree with them. Anyways im off, H&A is on now..
 

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You're sites are nearly all bias, i was looking at some of the sources on that website, and half of them-if not more- were either by Jews, or others [who aren't living in those areas]
So all you are saying is that you don't agree with them because a lot of them are written by Jews? Aren't you going to at least try and adress any of what it actually says?What about the quotes from Arabs and Muslims?

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Also there are sources there which dont work, and others about the ways Muslims treat Jews, last i checked none of that was in the Quran.
Its called different types of sources. Not all of them are hyperlinked to websites, some are from newspapers, books, people, etc...

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Like i read somewhere about how some "Mufti of Jerusalem" supported Hitler, wtf?! This has nothing to do with Islam, and you could go look it up if you like, you still wont find it anywhere that Muslims should go around/support people going around murdering others.
I never said that it was Islam which was at fault (believe me I hold nothing against any religion), but you can not say that in Arab (and many Muslim) countries that Jews are treated equally. In fact it even says so in the Koran that Jews and Christians have to pay a tax to Muslims in order to keep their religion while in a Muslim country.

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Its like me saying man the PM of Israel [PM right?] is a rapis, therefore all Israelis are rapist.
Actually it was the President and he was subsequently stripped of his position and charged through a court of law. BTW, that was a ridiculous analogy.
 

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Atilla89 said:
So all you are saying is that you don't agree with them because a lot of them are written by Jews? Aren't you going to at least try and adress any of what it actually says?What about the quotes from Arabs and Muslims?



Its called different types of sources. Not all of them are hyperlinked to websites, some are from newspapers, books, people, etc...



I never said that it was Islam which was at fault (believe me I hold nothing against any religion), but you can not say that in Arab (and many Muslim) countries that Jews are treated equally. In fact it even says so in the Koran that Jews and Christians have to pay a tax to Muslims in order to keep their religion while in a Muslim country.



Actually it was the President and he was subsequently stripped of his position and charged through a court of law. BTW, that was a ridiculous analogy.
hey why dont you just post more then 1 source, its fine with me, i'll go through them, but that fucking jewishvirtuallibrary.com is shit and bias even if it has its stupid sources. I always bother and post more then one source, so you can do that. Your not being clever when you post one shitty source and then go, "oh, im posting this source instead of multiple sources, because it has all its sources cited at the bottom!!", LOOOL :rofl: :rofl: . I wont bother searching and scrambling to the bottom of the crappy jewishvirtuallibrary.com page just to check out its sources, its a waste of my precious precious time.
 

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hey why dont you just post more then 1 source, its fine with me, i'll go through them, but that fucking jewishvirtuallibrary.com is shit and bias even if it has its stupid sources. I always bother and post more then one source, so you can do that. Your not being clever when you post one shitty source and then go, "oh, im posting this source instead of multiple sources, because it has all its sources cited at the bottom!!", LOOOL :rofl: :rofl: . I wont bother searching and scrambling to the bottom of the crappy jewishvirtuallibrary.com page just to check out its sources, its a waste of my precious precious time.
Lol, so basically you have no arguement and you're criticising the source even though it lists its own sources because that is all you can do. :eek:

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Atilla i read that whole thing, and it honestly was stupid. Either quote what you think is important or dont bother posting that crap.

Seriously i dont get it...why do you want us to read it?

BTW, that was a ridiculous analogy.
You're soo rude! wtf is your problem? He is YOUR President not mine, not my fault he turned out to be a rapist?!

I never said that it was Islam which was at fault (believe me I hold nothing against any religion), but you can not say that in Arab (and many Muslim) countries that Jews are treated equally. In fact it even says so in the Koran that Jews and Christians have to pay a tax to Muslims in order to keep their religion while in a Muslim country.
Please explain this to me. Islam isnt at fault, but its the Muslims and Quran?

Quotes from Muslims and Arabs? Why dont you talk about the stuff i say? What you only like the stuff which agrees with you?
 

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Atilla i read that whole thing, and it honestly was stupid. Either quote what you think is important or dont bother posting that crap.
Seriously i dont get it...why do you want us to read it? You're soo rude! wtf is your problem? He is YOUR President not mine, not my fault he turned out to be a rapist?! Please explain this to me. Islam isnt at fault, but its the Muslims and Quran? Quotes from Muslims and Arabs? Why dont you talk about the stuff i say? What you only like the stuff which agrees with you?
The stuff that I posted was directly related with what Jews had to go through in Arab lands, and how it wasn't true that they were able to live side by side peacefully.

Anyway, the former Israeli President, was never my President. I don't have a President; what I do have is a Prime Minister called John Howard...

As for the Muslim, Islam part, hold up, I never said that it was Muslims themselves to blame, however I am very critical of many of these leaders who threatened to wipe Israel off the map. I am sure that the clear majority of Muslims are law abiding citizens and I have nothing against them, this was criticism directed at the leader Arab leaders of the Middle East. Sorry about mentioning they were Muslim, even if they did use Islam to try and justify their actions.
 

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That really doesnt tell me they're being treated as slaves. So either give me evidence they're being treated as a slave would be treated, or dont bother.
because you do not care about their treatment as Slaves or worse than slaves in Lebanon, you only want to bitch about Israel as Arabs use Palestinians as a front to propagate their hatrted against jews. They have done nothing to improve palestinian lives.
I was talking about Jews in general and Muslims in general; the fact that they lived together for a long time, and are still living with each other-in some areas, yet there is no problems. The main problems are in Israel and Palestine.
Actually there have been numerous attacks on Jews by Muslims not only in palestine and other arabs/muslim countries, but also in various western countries such as USA, Argentina, France, UK and god who knows Last years horrific murder of a hollocaust survivor in Sydney some 90 years old woman was not by an arab?
Here are a few examples on attacks on jews by Arabs Ilan Halimi (1982? - 13 February 2006) was a young French Jew (of Moroccan parentage[1][2]) kidnapped on 21 January2006 by a gang of muslim immigrants called the "Barbarians" and subsequently torturedto death over a period of three weeks. The murder, amongst whose motives authorities include anti-Semitism, incited a public outcry in a France already marked by intense public controversy about the role of children of immigrants in its society.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilan_Halimi

Audrey Brachelle, 22, was attacked in the French city of Marseilles Thursday evening. The attack began as she walked back from her job as an accountant at a textile factory toward the metro station in the La Rose neighborhood of the city, which is home to many Jews.
Two Arab men followed her and attempted to steal her cell phone. After they grabbed it, the attackers noticed the Jewish ornament on the woman's necklace, at which point she says they realized she was Jewish and began focusing on brutalizing her rather than stealing her phone.
The men then punched her in the face, sliced her dress with a knife and carved at least one Nazi swastika into her chest. They also cut off a clump of her hair
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2844
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A gunman opened fire Thursday at Los Angeles International Airport while standing in line at the ticket counter of Israel's El Al Airlines, officials said, killing two and wounding four others before an airline security officer shot him dead.
Authorities identified the gunman as 41-year-old Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, who came to the United States from Egypt in 1992 and had been living in Irvine, California, for the last two years.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/07/04/la.airport.shooting/

Most anti-semitism or attacks on jews are perpetrated by muslims or arabs in the west. And we never heard jewish gangs attacking muslims/arabs. You may want to look at yourself before accusing israel/jews of anything.
 

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Atilla89 said:
Lol, so basically you have no arguement and you're criticising the source even though it lists its own sources because that is all you can do. :eek:

PATHETIC:rofl:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I just thought that i'd check out the sources for this article that you posted

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html#b

i lol'd when i saw them, because they link you to amazon's websites for books that we cant even read online.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0393304205/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0030592135/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=067944632X/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0140103767/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0827601980/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0838632629/theamericanisraeA/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0827603703/theamericanisraeA/

As for the website s that it sources, i laughed so much when i saw them, that i couldnt even breath!!!

http://www.memri.org/main.html -> it has 2 sources from memri.org that aint working.

http://www.jta.org/ -> ROFLMFAO you expect me to take that source (jewish telegraph agency.com :rofl: ) seriously, i dont think that you would accept a source from al-jazeera.com right?


http://meanwhile.com/?domain=ntytimes.com& -> this source doesnt make sense at all!! Lol!!!

So go fuck jewish virtual library!! for all i care :rofl:

 

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