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rasengan90

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^^Dude, Israeli chicks are the fucking bomb. Take a look at Bar Rafaeli, she is fine, I'd Jew that.
 

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The soviet Union should have embraced Islam as the official religion. For it was Muhammad who brought together the tribes of Arabia, in the same sense, Islam could have brought western Europe together with eastern Europe, and consequently ignite the greatest economic ideology to roam the world.
 

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YES because there is nothing more to life than just collecting possessions.

YES because you living in Australia with a government who backs you is in the same situation as the other 6 billion people in the world.

Please this post just goes to show how shallow you really are. As long as capitalism brings you material satisfaction then screw the people around the world who slave away to make those air conditioners and cars you prize so much.

I hope you can take your money to the grave with you. It'll be the only comfort you have.
Spoken like a true socialist.

What's wrong with collecting possessions? What else is there to life than accumulating and hoarding the things we buy with our money. Why does something have no value if we've worked hard to buy it?

The government that backs me is a product of capitalism. Capitalism works. I pay taxes, these taxes go towards the community. I work - I get paid for my work, I get paid more than somebody who works at Maccas, because I work harder than somebody who works at Maccas.

I'm not sure what your point is. These people aren't in the predicament they're in because of capitalism.
They're in that predicament because they're too stupid to utilise something that works - a la capitalism.
 

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Alright. Why are you critical of American capitalism Mathmite dude? I can't be bothered to reread all those pages.
EDIT: just read stuff. You're pretty much a socialist :D
 

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Anyone remember when Palestinian Terrorists infiltrated an Israeli Kibbutz and murdered 3 adults and 2 children aged 4 and 5 in the middle of the night back in 2002? It was pretty big news when it happened. Surely Israel has the right to put a stop to things like this, and of course there have been civilian casualties but i doubt there have been civilian murders like the ones mentioned above where civilians have been killed on purpose for no reason.
 

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Anyone remember when Israel bombed a UN school packed with huddling Palestinians fearing for their lives and killed 43 of them? Or when they used white phosphorus in a high-density urban area, despite UN conventions prohibiting this exact scenario? Or when the Israeli soldiers told 10 Palestinians to hide in a building to avoid getting hurt and then bombed the exact same building, killing all inside?
They're as bad as each other and Israel has long since lost it's moral authority.
 

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Anyone remember when Palestinian Terrorists infiltrated an Israeli Kibbutz and murdered 3 adults and 2 children aged 4 and 5 in the middle of the night back in 2002? It was pretty big news when it happened. Surely Israel has the right to put a stop to things like this, and of course there have been civilian casualties but i doubt there have been civilian murders like the ones mentioned above where civilians have been killed on purpose for no reason.
What does this have to do with Hamas? Or the vast majority of people who live in Palestinian lands?

Fucking honestly.
 

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Gazz95 said:
Anyone remember when Palestinian Terrorists infiltrated an Israeli Kibbutz and murdered 3 adults and 2 children aged 4 and 5 in the middle of the night back in 2002? It was pretty big news when it happened. Surely Israel has the right to put a stop to things like this, and of course there have been civilian casualties but i doubt there have been civilian murders like the ones mentioned above where civilians have been killed on purpose for no reason.
islamaphobe FOUND.
 

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Anyone remember when Israel bombed a UN school packed with huddling Palestinians fearing for their lives and killed 43 of them? Or when they used white phosphorus in a high-density urban area, despite UN conventions prohibiting this exact scenario? Or when the Israeli soldiers told 10 Palestinians to hide in a building to avoid getting hurt and then bombed the exact same building, killing all inside?
They're as bad as each other and Israel has long since lost it's moral authority.
They're not as bad as one another anymore. Israel has shown it is a lot, lot worse. That is the general conclusion of this thread.
 

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hahahah i saw ppl putting up 'stop the war on gaza' posters.

theyre 1 week too late.
 

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ANSWERING ISRAELS CRITICS:

1) “Israel’s response in Gaza is disproportionate”

Since when is war a mathematical equation? The basic objective of any warring party is to inflict maximal damage on the enemy while minimizing its own casualties. Was there anything proportional about the US war in Iraq? Or about Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait for that matter? Or about Russia’s recent war against Georgia? Israel is doing exactly what any other country has done in the past. This is how war works.

Would a British citizen complain that “too few” British soldiers are being killed in Iraq? Probably not.

And on a more elementary note: Palestinian military inferiority is not an indication of moral superiority. Palestinian insistence on resorting to violence despite this military weakness is an indication of poor judgment perhaps – yet it is by no means an indication of moral virtue. Being militarily weak does not make the Palestinians right.

2) “But Qassams don’t kill”

Actually, Qassams do kill. Not too often, perhaps, but dozens of Israelis were killed and wounded by rocket fire in recent years. Moreover, at this time the Palestinians are firing long-range Grad rockets with even greater explosive power. Such rockets killed 2 Israelis Monday.

Yet beyond the casualty figures, the psychological damage caused as result of living under an ongoing rocket threat is immeasurable. Would anyone in the West agree to have their family live under constant rocket attacks and be regularly woken up by sirens in the middle of the night? Would anyone living under such conditions appreciate being told that “these rockets don’t kill?” Probably not.

3) “It’s all because of Israel’s siege. Israel should allow aid into Gaza.”

Israel has allowed goods into Gaza regularly throughout the “siege”. Palestinians have been able to complement these deliveries with supplies smuggled through hundreds of tunnels (of course, they would likely be able to bring in even more food had they not used the tunnels to smuggle in missiles.).

The day before operation “Cast Lead” got underway, Israel allowed dozens of trucks carrying aid to enter the Strip. On Tuesday, another 100 trucks – double the normal number –are expected to enter Gaza after Defense Minister Barak approved the move.

In short, Israel is allowing aid into the Strip (but guess who has kept Gaza crossings mostly closed thus far? That’s right, Egypt.)

4) “Why didn’t Israel just agree to renew the Gaza truce?”

First, what truce? Terror groups continued to fire rockets throughout the lull, even if somewhat infrequently, and even if the world didn’t seem to care too much. Nonetheless, Israel clearly declared that it is interested in extending the truce. Our top officials made it clear time and again.

Yet Hamas leaders clearly declared that the truce has ended on December 19th, and proceeded to bombard southern Israeli communities with dozens of rockets daily. In short, it is no wonder that even the Egyptians are blaming Hamas this time.

5) “But Hamas was elected democratically – why can’t Israel accept it?”

Although Hamas won the Palestinian elections, it took Gaza by force, in the process hurling rival Fatah members down to their death from high-rises and shooting others in the knees with the declared aim of maiming them. Some democracy.

In any case, Israel in fact “recognizes,” de facto, Hamas’ rule in Gaza, which is precisely why it is justified in attacking the Hamas-ruled Strip, recognizing that it is indeed being governed by a terror entity. Israel did not launch the operation because Hamas is in power there – rather, it did so because Hamas is a terrorist organization that has deliberately targeted civilians with thousands of rockets over the past 8 years.

6) “Israel is targeting civilians”

You mean to say that “one of the most powerful armies in the world” has been bombing Gaza for days, deploying massive air power, dropping hundreds of bombs, and ultimately killing a grand total of 50 civilians or so in the “most crowded place on earth?”

There are two options here:
A) The Israeli army is not targeting civilians, or
B) Israeli pilots suck.
We tend to go with option A.

Indeed, Israel goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties, by deploying precise ammunition and specialized techniques. In fact, nobody in the world does this better than the Jewish State.
your are beyond stupid.
 

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Yeh i pretty much am an Islamaphobe, any religion that calls for the death of people who don't convert to Islam is pretty fucked up imo.
 

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