Will Shakespear
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there it iscxlxoxk said:
pure unashamed racism
"the brown people LIKE dying of curable diseases!"
Is western civilisation better than aboriginies of the past? (3 Viewers)
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pure unashamed racism
"the brown people LIKE dying of curable diseases!"
Groucho Marxist
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Jesus Christ, there are some dumb cunts on this forum.
To be completely serious for a moment, I'd say there were many good things about indigenous Australian culture, they produced some decent art, music, knowledge etc... but on any qualitative measure of well-being and development in human civilisation an individual was substantially less well off to be born into aboriginal society.
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no...they died of fewer diseases, before british came omg, watch guns, germs and steel, aborigines, did not have smallpox along with many other germs/diseases, that white man had contracted in their history...Will Shakespear said:
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He also admitted to their bias.cxlxoxk said:
EDIT: Also, I don't believe analogies are exclusive with facts.ongitsangali said:
EDIT2: We've provided citation in the post up above, in case you didn't notice.
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Groucho Marxist
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Ugh. The argument isn't against us, it's practically cxlxoxk and ongitsangali against common sense.
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oh and btw, it would be stupid of me to compare aborigines of the PAST, to women of TODAY'S western world, i would have to go back to the same time British arrived, traditional aboriginal culture have not had the past 200+ years to change, it was fucked up by the british.
Because traditional Aboriginal culture virtually disappeared and didn't get to change...
in 18th century Europe, (the "western world" at the time) - some even closer to present day
on women's education:
"The goal of women's education was to attain an ideal "womanhood"—a "proper education" was viewed as one that supported domestic and social activities but disregarded more academic pursuits."
on women's rights:
Olympe de Gouges demanded equal rights for women in the new French Republic, and was eventually executed by guillotine in 1793.
Madame Roland, was an activist for women's social and political rights and was executed for treason, largely due to her outspoken feminist ideas.
Women in the 16th, 17th, and 18th Centuries | Introduction: Feminism in Literature
on slavery of women:
Phillis Wheatley was a slavewoman in Europe.
Did aboriginals enslave human females??? Which is worse slavery or forced marriage?
on property ownership for women:
Only unmarried woman could do ALL of these things: "own property, make a contract, or sue and be sued".When married, women, "gave up her name, and virtually all her property came under her husband's control"
on jobs for women:
"In 1890, women constituted about 5 percent of the total doctors in the United States. During the 1980s the proportion was about 17 percent." Wow and that was just 28 years ago, talk about gender inequality in professions.
"Women constituted more than 45 percent of employed persons in the United States in 1989, but they had only a small share of the decision-making jobs."
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"During the early history of the United States, a man virtually owned his wife and children as he did his material possessions."
WIC - Women's History in America
Because traditional Aboriginal culture virtually disappeared and didn't get to change...
in 18th century Europe, (the "western world" at the time) - some even closer to present day
on women's education:
"The goal of women's education was to attain an ideal "womanhood"—a "proper education" was viewed as one that supported domestic and social activities but disregarded more academic pursuits."
on women's rights:
Olympe de Gouges demanded equal rights for women in the new French Republic, and was eventually executed by guillotine in 1793.
Madame Roland, was an activist for women's social and political rights and was executed for treason, largely due to her outspoken feminist ideas.
Women in the 16th, 17th, and 18th Centuries | Introduction: Feminism in Literature
on slavery of women:
Phillis Wheatley was a slavewoman in Europe.
Did aboriginals enslave human females??? Which is worse slavery or forced marriage?
on property ownership for women:
Only unmarried woman could do ALL of these things: "own property, make a contract, or sue and be sued".When married, women, "gave up her name, and virtually all her property came under her husband's control"
on jobs for women:
"In 1890, women constituted about 5 percent of the total doctors in the United States. During the 1980s the proportion was about 17 percent." Wow and that was just 28 years ago, talk about gender inequality in professions.
"Women constituted more than 45 percent of employed persons in the United States in 1989, but they had only a small share of the decision-making jobs."
Other
"During the early history of the United States, a man virtually owned his wife and children as he did his material possessions."
WIC - Women's History in America
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Quit living in the past.
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Tell me which is more important, to be able:
to do what you want (freedom of LIFE) or to marry whoever you want (freedom to MARRY)
If you say that being a slave is better than being forced to marry someone, then your conscience is fucked.
Phillis Wheatley was not the only slavewoman in Europe at the time, there were thousands of others.
to do what you want (freedom of LIFE) or to marry whoever you want (freedom to MARRY)
If you say that being a slave is better than being forced to marry someone, then your conscience is fucked.
Phillis Wheatley was not the only slavewoman in Europe at the time, there were thousands of others.
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You really are fucking retarded. You don't think the Aboriginals had a rigid social system and marriage arrangement?cxlxoxk said: