is adv science able to get a high-salary job? (1 Viewer)

[Deltan]

If this still remains an overriding decision-making issue, then it brings the point of discussion back to the initial comment about passion.. how much of this is really about passion?

Is there even any existing career overwhelmed with passion these days??

 

[kevinx2]

Is there even any existing career overwhelmed with passion these days??

Graphic design i guess. Maybe proffessional athletes?

 

[RogueAcademic]

Is there even any existing career overwhelmed with passion these days??

In my experience, veterinary science students generally choose their careers out of real passion. And this follows through to seasoned vets who continue to feel passionate about what they do.

Music or any other creative arts area also.

 

[Trebla]

Mathematics/Statistics is probably one field where you can end up with a "high salary" job.

 

[Survivor39]

1) How much do you mean by 'real income'?

According to several German and Swedish exchange students in our lab at the moment, they get a scholarship similar to a salary of an RA at their home country. I am not sure of the exact amount. Now our APA is no where near a salary of an RA here, which is currently about 49-50K for a first year RA, even after tax it is still higher than the current rate for APA.

 

[RogueAcademic]

According to several German and Swedish exchange students in our lab at the moment, they get a scholarship similar to a salary of an RA at their home country. I am not sure of the exact amount. Now our APA is no where near a salary of an RA here, which is currently about 49-50K for a first year RA, even after tax it is still higher than the current rate for APA.

It comes down to the difference between governments and how much they want to support and develop the R&D sector of their respective countries and as I said, the Australian government is notorious for not supporting its scientists.

I'm not familiar with the tax system in the European countries but are you saying the PhD students there receive tax-free stipends equivalent to a salaried and taxed RA, meaning the PhD students will come out financially better than the RA because they are not taxed?

Further, I would argue there are other factors such as differences in standard of living that need to be brought into the discussion if talking about differences in scholarship amount.

I personally think that PhD students are students, they require supervision and guidance as they progress through the three or four years of research (forgetting for a moment that some scrupulous supervisors use their PhD students as if they were RAs), notwithstanding they have a personal long term stake in their undertakings and will graduate with a PhD at the end of 3-4 years. The current average stipend of approximately $20k is a bare minimum, the ideal amount I think should be around $25k tax-free. As I described above, the PhD student has the potential to earn a further $4k p.a. on top of that. If a potential applicant still considers these conditions to be a major part of the deal-breaker, I would be questioning other aspects of the applicant's real motivation and commitment, amongst other things.

 

[kitkatCEO]

I wasnt expecting to have these many comments...thx guyz!

I'm still not sure what to study in uni.... >_< is there any course that secures a stable n' high salary job?? I choosed adv science becoz I dunno whatelse to do besides science... I hav a UAI of 95.6 ...

In fact, I wanted to do pharm in USYD...but as u noe...itz too competitive n' I didn sit for STAT!

can u guyz giv me any ideas.......???

For commerce... itz almost every single of my friends are doing com...

 

[Survivor39]

Can you clarify what is a "high salary job"?? We can't really help because there is no standard for what a "high salary job" is. How much p.a. is high?

 

[Trebla]

Do Commerce/Science if you're that worried lol, your UAI might just be enough to get you into it....

 

[kitkatCEO]

I found a salary website in mycareer.com
Salary Information - Latest Pay Rates by Industry at MyCareer

i think about 100,000 or above p.a is high........ =_=

is biomedical engineerin a good course to do?!

 

[RogueAcademic]

kitkatCEO, sounds like you need to take a year off and travel a bit, get a bit of life experience into you, maybe even get a part time job somewhere and see what it feels like to earn a living away from home. Maybe after that you might have a better idea what you want to do.

Just out of interest, what do your parents do?

 

[Deltan]

I found a salary website in mycareer.com
Salary Information - Latest Pay Rates by Industry at MyCareer

i think about 100,000 or above p.a is high........ =_=

is biomedical engineerin a good course to do?!

Someone clarify, 100K+ is average for most engineering courses?

choose flexible engo if your unsure or takeRogueAcademic advice.

 

[piitb]

I found a salary website in mycareer.com
Salary Information - Latest Pay Rates by Industry at MyCareer

i think about 100,000 or above p.a is high........ =_=

is biomedical engineerin a good course to do?!

i don't think that salary survey takes into account those advance science graduates applying their trade in the pizza industry

 

[Survivor39]

i think about 100,000 or above p.a is high........ =_=

is biomedical engineerin a good course to do?!

Ok.. to get $100,000 in science you need to be an Associate Professor or Professor at a university. This may take you may be 20 years if you are good.

A Professor gets about $135,000 a year.
An Associate Professor gets about $115,000 to $118,000 a year

But seriously, I don't think you have a clear idea of what you want to do. Take RogueAcademic's advice or do a combined science/engineering or Science/commerce degree and hope that will help you decide what you want to do.

If money is the main issue and you still want to pursue science, then, like I've said, it's going to take you about 20 years to get to the figure you are after. At least it is not impossible

 

[xoa]

Our government and business leaders often claim there's a shortage of science graduates, but it's not true. Our stone-age economy has little use for scientific knowledge. Unemployment rates are high for graduates in most strands. Already too many science graduates are "employed" to deliver pizzas or stack shelves.

If after many years of study you're lucky enough to find work as a scientist, you'll be disappointed with your salary. You'll be a bitter 45 year old, managed by a young commerce graduate on double your income.

 

[Miss Winey]

If you're interested in science.
but have a mind for logical reasoning, creativity, spatial thinking and problem solving.
why not try engineering?
It's heaps of fun! and you will get a high paying job at the end of it

http://www.apesma.asn.au/newsviews/...ring_graduates_off_to_good_start_10_11_08.pdf

 

[sev90]

it all depends on what kind of science major you do/.


eg.. i study pharmaceutical sciences and i have sooooooo many career options...

differerent jobs have diff payments..

eg. analytical chemist will get paid more than an hospital scientist for example.. it all depends

 

[Trebla]

Maths and Stats ftw

 

[piitb]

the stats lecturer is driving around in a honda civic ftw

 

[the-intercepter]

"At the same time that a mining industry desperate for the expertise of geologists has allowed some graduates to push their starting salaries beyond $100,000, university geology departments are cutting staff and subjects or closing altogether."

then again... that was back in 06 in the SMH