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wtf are you on about?svodjdani said:
Are you talking about the stoning or the Mut'a marriage..fuck im lost!
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Are you talking about the stoning or the Mut'a marriage..fuck im lost!
yes in the Quran it does state that......for purity intentions......this is a thing that none of us can comprehend...in a western country.
i have no idea how Islamic people can do this...but since we dont do it in our state...it sounds so barbaric
i have no idea how Islamic people can do this...but since we dont do it in our state...it sounds so barbaric
$hiftyIceQueen
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Can You Please Tell Me Wtf You Are Talking About?!!!!!
LOL....yeh sorry about that..
Generally my whole issue here is tryin to correct the ppl who are attaching all these negative things to Islam. Or saying that cause some Islamic people do it, then it is apart of Islam.
You get me?
Generally my whole issue here is tryin to correct the ppl who are attaching all these negative things to Islam. Or saying that cause some Islamic people do it, then it is apart of Islam.
You get me?
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Are you referring to the Mut'a marriage-since thats what people were talking about. Or the stoning?
Are you referring to the Mut'a marriage-since thats what people were talking about. Or the stoning?
That's like saying drawing and quartering "sounds barbaric" it IS barbaric. Yet we still have muslims in this country extoll the virtues of shariah law even though it sanctifies barbaric punishments like stoning. I'm glad peter costelllo etc. has said if 'if you want to live under shariah law GTFO'.svodjdani said:
MARTIN:
It seems clear, from what you said in today’s press, you’re angry with people who promote Sharia, Islamic law?
TREASURER:
Well the point I would make is this, Australians are free to express themselves about political views, let’s make that clear. But there are some things Australia stands for, has always stood for, always will stand for which will never change. We will never be an Islamic State. We will never observe Sharia Law. We have a Constitution. The Constitution means that Australia has a civil state, that the laws are made by elected representatives. We will always be a democracy and to people who say, well we have come to this country and we would like to turn it into something that it isn’t, I say, you must understand, that will never occur. There are certain core Constitutional things that Australia stands for, always will and expects all of its citizens to accept. And that is a civil government with parliamentary democracy, with democratic law making, with equality between men and women and if you’re someone that doesn’t like those principles then Australia may not be the best place for you.
http://www.treasurer.gov.au/tsr/content/transcripts/2005/151.asp
It seems clear, from what you said in today’s press, you’re angry with people who promote Sharia, Islamic law?
TREASURER:
Well the point I would make is this, Australians are free to express themselves about political views, let’s make that clear. But there are some things Australia stands for, has always stood for, always will stand for which will never change. We will never be an Islamic State. We will never observe Sharia Law. We have a Constitution. The Constitution means that Australia has a civil state, that the laws are made by elected representatives. We will always be a democracy and to people who say, well we have come to this country and we would like to turn it into something that it isn’t, I say, you must understand, that will never occur. There are certain core Constitutional things that Australia stands for, always will and expects all of its citizens to accept. And that is a civil government with parliamentary democracy, with democratic law making, with equality between men and women and if you’re someone that doesn’t like those principles then Australia may not be the best place for you.
http://www.treasurer.gov.au/tsr/content/transcripts/2005/151.asp
Mut'a:
"There is evidence in the books of the history and the cultural traditions of the Arabs that in certain situations, a temporary marital relationship between a man and a woman was considered to be acceptable among pre-Islamic Arabs. There are certain narratives (hadith) that imply that for sometime, even the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship. On the other hand, certain other narratives are held as evidence to the fact that the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship at all, it was prohibited, later on – after the death of the Prophet – by the second caliph, `Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra)."
just to make it clear..
Mut'a marriage is still being debated as to if it EVER was prohibited or accpeted..
My point of view is that it was prohibited since it was condemned in the Quran itself..in the Surahs...
Stoning:
I can give you some examples of things that I know about..that happen in Tehran.
Since Hezbollah, has control of certain areas in Tehran.
If a male is seen with a women, they are given 6 lashes over 2 years....
So things like this do happen, but not regularly.
"There is evidence in the books of the history and the cultural traditions of the Arabs that in certain situations, a temporary marital relationship between a man and a woman was considered to be acceptable among pre-Islamic Arabs. There are certain narratives (hadith) that imply that for sometime, even the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship. On the other hand, certain other narratives are held as evidence to the fact that the Prophet (pbuh) did not prohibit such a relationship at all, it was prohibited, later on – after the death of the Prophet – by the second caliph, `Umar ibn al-Khattab (ra)."
just to make it clear..
Mut'a marriage is still being debated as to if it EVER was prohibited or accpeted..
My point of view is that it was prohibited since it was condemned in the Quran itself..in the Surahs...
Stoning:
I can give you some examples of things that I know about..that happen in Tehran.
Since Hezbollah, has control of certain areas in Tehran.
If a male is seen with a women, they are given 6 lashes over 2 years....
So things like this do happen, but not regularly.
It seems we can comprehend alot more than muslims given that every islamic country is a backward toilet.svodjdani said:
Not that I don't find current "mainstream" western values to be acceptable, loss of moral direction, religious or otherwise, has served to weaken western nations, but not nearly as much as islam has served to retard its own subjects.
You mean Iran and Egypt aren't economic dynamos? I remember the shah's ambition was to make Iran as powerful economically/techonologically as West Germany. Now look at Iran. Those morons are poorer per capita then mexico.bshoc said:
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