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Fucking hell, ALP trying to attract the Muslim vote.

Fuck off, when is the left faction ever gonna take over???

I'm gonna ring up Tanya Plibersek and ask her wtf is with this.
 

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Labor Spindoctors said:
Media Statement - 21st March 2006

A Beazley Labor Government will give peace of mind to parents concerned about their kids' exposure to violent and pornographic material on the internet.

Under Labor, all Internet Service Providers will be required to offer a filtered "clean feed" internet service to all households, and to schools and other public internet points accessible by kids.

Labor's "clean feed" system would prevent users from accessing any content that has been identified as prohibited by the Australian Communications and Media Authority, including sites containing child pornography, acts of extreme violence or cruelty, and X-rated material.

Only Labor understands the concerns of parents who want their kids to access the internet without exposure to pornography and violence.

John Howard has had ten long years to address these concerns but instead he just defends a failing system of regulation which doesn't do enough, by advising parents to "do it themselves" with internet filter software.

The reality is that cost and poor computer literacy mean almost two-thirds of parents don't have internet filters on their family computers.

This is not good enough when research suggests that the exposure of children and others in the community to this sickening content can lead to aggression towards women and child abuse.

Under the current law prohibited content can be removed from the internet if it is based in Australia, but around 85 per cent of prohibited content, like child pornography, is located offshore.

Governments can and should do more to stop extreme Internet content from getting into Australian homes and being accessed by kids.

Through an opt-out system, adults who still want to view currently legal content would advise their ISP that they want to opt out of the "clean feed", and would then face the same regulations which currently apply.

Last year a Government report confirmed that the technology to implement mandatory filtering by ISPs is feasible and won't slow the internet down.

Leading telecommunications companies overseas like British Telecom and Telenor are already employing this technology.

Labor recognises the introduction of this filtering will impose costs on Internet Service Providers. We will work with industry to ensure this service is provided at no extra cost to the householder. We will ensure that the costs of providing a clean feed are shared fairly and competition is not adversely affected, particularly for small providers.

This proposal should be part of a multi-pronged attack on illegal content. Last year, Labor called for a subsidy for a family's purchase of internet filtering software - a good idea ignored by the Howard Government.

Labor would also look to put extra resources into the Net Alert program to promote internet safety for kids and parents and strengthen ties with international law enforcement to bring publishers of illegal content to justice.

An out of touch Howard Government's ignorance of kitchen table issues like these is letting Australian parents down.

The Labor Government I lead will give peace of mind to mums and dads when it comes to violent and pornographic images no child should see.
We dont need more government interference in our private affairs. The responsibility for such an issue should lie with the parent, not the state.
 
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Kids are always looking for child porn on the internet.... watch out for your psycho kids.

I have always thought that ( I know from others in my family ) when kids use the net, parents are keeping a close eye at a young age. But parents just get that one day yes they will look at porn, so if they were 15 I dont think they would give a stuff. Younger kids ( like 10 ) dont really think about porn and sex like that, and its more of an amusement thing. Doesnt mean they will treat women differently. They here the word POO and crack up, and we dont see kids punching up poo.

If kids are interested in looking at porn they will. Its just a human curiosity thing to go "oo girl with big boobies and gstring looking happy" CLICK on some pop up or ad.

I think it is a rather strange approach for the opposition to take. John Howard must have a secret child porn fetish.
 

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Am i missing something, but when they say offer, doesn't that mean the parents will choose for the ISP to block pornography?

So it is still coming down to the parents choice anyway.
 

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Comrade nathan said:
Am i missing something, but when they say offer, doesn't that mean the parents will choose for the ISP to block pornography?

So it is still coming down to the parents choice anyway.
Opposition Leader Kim Beazley says a Labor government would introduce laws requiring Internet service providers to offer a "clean feed" without pornographic and violent sites.

Mr Beazley says Australian parents do not want their children to be exposed to such material.

"Block it at the point of the provider as opposed to the point of the parent and if that particular household wants to opt into the pornographic sites then they make an active decision to do so," he said.
You're a little off the mark, nathan - the 'open' feed would become the exception, not the norm.
 

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Kim's clearly been stood over by the Porn Mag union.

I also think censorship is evil, but the extent and ease in which explicit material is availiable online is too much. It cheapens relationships/self respect etc. It, along with the rest of globalisation, has corrupted our civilization and led to community breakdown.

However, these things cant be avoided (esp activities in chatrooms - the hotbed for this kind of thing)
I don't necessairly believe it cheapens relationships. I know multiple sets of couples where pornography doesn't cheapen the relationship and at least one where they watch porn together. Anyway if it wasn't for pornography there are alot of privacy technologies that wouldn't be avialable they are often on the forefront of developing them.
 

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the internet =free porn rather than buying a mag or going to video store. really stupid of beazly i have feeling he is gettin desperate. bah is there limit to how long john howard can stay in government? but then again there isnt anyone gud enough to take his place.
 

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Whilst he's at it, why doesn't Beazley shut down all the ClubXs around australia, and maybe prevent cinemas from showing explicit films. How does the internet differ from other forms of communication anyway? It's illogical.
 
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I just tried out Google with the Safe Search Filters.

It works pretty well, actually, both when you intentionally put a sexual word in, and when you put one in that could be non-sexual as well.
 

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Yet another brilliant policy from the ALP.
Fucking cuntstains.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opini...ties-on-the-net/2005/12/07/1133829659783.html

Keeping kids from nasties on the net

December 8, 2005

More needs to be done to protect minors from internet pornography, writes Guy Barnett.

LAST month, 62 members of the federal Coalition signed a letter to the Prime Minister calling for a ban on access to pornographic, violent and other inappropriate material via the internet.
The signatories believed the internet should be regulated in a similar way to other media. If adults wished to "opt in" to access the material then of course that would be their right, and they would have to apply for their right of access.
Guy Barnett is a Liberal senator for Tasmania.
Not just an ALP idea. Looks like Big Kim ripped it off right from the Libs.
 
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Is there some sort of epidemic of kids 'accidently' being exposed to porn, which then leads them down a path of pure EVIL?

LAST month, 62 members of the federal Coalition signed a letter to the Prime Minister calling for a ban on access to pornographic, violent and other inappropriate material via the internet.
What... even for consenting adults? You fucking assholes!

Anyway I'm against government interference with the internet in any way, it's the only mode of communication that I can think of that almost anyone can use to get their message (any message) published to a huge audience.
 
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I don't see what the big problem is, the adults can still have the choice to view porn, it seems it would only require them making the indication to do so.
 

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Yes, creating a database of 'PORN FREAKS'. Anyway don't you think sometimes... parents shouldn't have the right to decide if their kid watches porn? If their kid... is 15 years old and wants to rub one out, why not?
 

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I don't know how much of an effect porn has on teenages. But for the time being i would say the parents have the right, also the responibility to prohibit their children from watching porn. Also because it is illegal after all.
 
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PwarYuex said:
I just tried out Google with the Safe Search Filters.

It works pretty well, actually, both when you intentionally put a sexual word in, and when you put one in that could be non-sexual as well.
try 'software piracy' in google images....
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Yes, creating a database of 'PORN FREAKS'. Anyway don't you think sometimes... parents shouldn't have the right to decide if their kid watches porn? If their kid... is 15 years old and wants to rub one out, why not?
i'll say that a parent does have the right to decide for the kid, because they own the computter and they pay for the internet. i mean, a kid doesn't have rights to do whatever they want, but at the same time, i agree this isn't the place of gov't, its the place of parents.
i mean, you don't ban video games, movies, or music because they could adversely affect kids you just don't let kids have access if they're not mature enough. its called parenting.
 

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Disagree with it totally. I understand the good intentions to stop children accessing porn, but that is the responsiblity of the parent who should be monitering young childrens internet activity as well as discussing internet saftey with them.

Consenting Adults should not have their internet access filtered for the sake of children they are not the parents of. If you choose to have children, you need to take the responsiblity for them.
 

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