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sorry but i need some help;
Integrate: xsqrt(4-x) dx
 

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just do i.b.p
 

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shaon0 said:
yeah i did
but i got some weird answer
let x=u, (4-x)1/2 = dv
du = dx
v = -2/3(4-x)3/2

so I x(4-x)1/2.dx
= -2/3 x(4-x)3/2 + I 2/3(4-x)3/2
= -2/3 x(4-x)3/2 - 4/15(4-x)5/2
= (4-x)3/2(-10/15 x - 16/15 + 4x/15)
= -2/15 (4-x)3/2(3x + 8) [+C]
 

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lolokay said:
let x=u, (4-x)1/2 = dv
du = dx
v = -2/3(4-x)3/2

so I x(4-x)1/2.dx
= -2/3 x(4-x)3/2 + I 2/3(4-x)3/2
= -2/3 x(4-x)3/2 - 4/15(4-x)5/2
= (4-x)3/2(-10/15 x - 16/15 + 4x/15)
= -2/15 (4-x)3/2(3x + 8) [+C]
oh, i got what you got but i didn't simpligfy it any further from:
= -2/3 x(4-x)3/2 - 4/15(4-x)5/2
would i still get full marks for my answer?
 

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I assume you would, unless it said "in its simplest form" or something
 

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lolokay said:
I assume you would, unless it said "in its simplest form" or something
Yes! :D thanks for your help :)
 

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shaon0 said:
sorry but i need some help;
Integrate: xsqrt(4-x) dx
You can avoid integration by parts using the following:
∫ x√(4 - x) dx = - ∫ ([4 - x] - 4)√(4 - x) dx
= - ∫ [4 - x]√(4 - x) dx + ∫ 4√(4 - x) dx
= - ∫ (4 - x)3/2 dx + 4 ∫ (4 - x)1/2 dx
= 2(4 - x)5/2/5 - 8(4 - x)3/2/3 + c

That should be the same answer if you factorise (4 - x)3/2 and put over a common denominator.
 

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Trebla said:
You can avoid integration by parts using the following:
∫ x√(4 - x) dx = - ∫ ([4 - x] - 4)√(4 - x) dx
= - ∫ [4 - x]√(4 - x) dx + ∫ 4√(4 - x) dx
= - ∫ (4 - x)3/2 dx + 4 ∫ (4 - x)1/2 dx
= 2(4 - x)5/2/5 - 8(4 - x)3/2/3 + c

That should be the same answer if you factorise (4 - x)3/2 and put over a common denominator.
sorry, thats too pro for me
 
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yeah i wouldn't use i.b.p for a question like this as its not two different functions really
u use ibp for things like e^x.sinx and stuff
you can just use a suitable substitution such as u=4-x
its alot quicker and easier
 

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well I wouldn't say it takes all that long to do it by parts.
I definitely prefer the u=4-x way though
 

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tacogym27101990 said:
yeah i wouldn't use i.b.p for a question like this as its not two different functions really
u use ibp for things like e^x.sinx and stuff
you can just use a suitable substitution such as u=4-x
its alot quicker and easier
alrite, i'll take that on board. I wasn't thinking of substitution because it was in the i.b.p section of fitzpatrick.
anyways, Thanks for the advice :)
 

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