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Help someone. Why is the answer C not A.

Ah I remember a similar question I had for my first topic test of maintaining a balance lol, anyway, when a person's body is dehydrated, there is a decrease in water and an increase of salt, hence why both aldosterone and ADH are needed.
 

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Help someone. Why is the answer C not A.

This tripped me up as well. I would like to know also.

But I'm thinking, because he's dehydrated > high salt concentrated blood / low water. So my initial thought is A. But they say it's C, so maybe because he's just ran a race, his salts are also low (as they've been sweated out), so both are released.

Is this right or is there another reason?
 

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Because ADH does not control the levels of salt in the blood. It only controls the concentration of salt through water retention. (Usually because of dehydration)
It makes collecting ducts more permeable so that water can be reabsorbed back into the blood and body tissues.

And when aldosterone is released, there is more sodium absorbed which leads to more water returning to the blood (in order to complement the salt and retain normal levels)

They work off each other
So when water is needed, both hormones are released??
 

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This tripped me up as well. I would like to know also.

But I'm thinking, because he's dehydrated > high salt concentrated blood / low water. So my initial thought is A. But they say it's C, so maybe because he's just ran a race, his salts are also low (as they've been sweated out), so both are released.

Is this right or is there another reason?
Oh I thought that salt levels are high, true, sweat contains salt and water lol.
 

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So when water is needed, both hormones are released??
The person after the marathon released sweat, which is salt and water, basically resulting in dehydration. To return water levels to normal, ADH is released, and to return salt levels to normal, aldosterone is released.
 

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The person after the marathon released sweat, which is salt and water, basically resulting in dehydration. To return water levels to normal, ADH is released, and to return salt levels to normal, aldosterone is released.
Okay sweet this makes sense. All the kidney stuff confuses me a bit but I think I've got a basic understanding of it now.
 

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So when water is needed, both hormones are released??
I'm not too sure? Maybe someone knows it better, but it's tricky so some clarification would be good.

I know that aldosterone occurs in the nephrons and ADH in the collecting ducts and distal tubules, so ADH would generally occur after aldosterone. Because the initial level of water in the filtered blood is decided by aldosterone (less/more diffusing in), then the ADH would decide whether the water is needed, and therefore the concentration of urine and how it maintains the concentration.

I'm not sure if I actually made any sense, my brain is starting to scramble haha, hopefully someone else can help

EDIT: Nvm, BlueGas strikes again
 

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In 1880, Charles Laveran observed micro-organisms in fresh blood from malarial patients and that malaria was caused by the plasmodium micro-organisms. Later in the century, Patrick Manson proposed that malaria is transmitted by mosquitoes, Ronald Ross added to this as he established that the protozoan Plasmodium was the cause of malaria, he showed it can be transmitted and thus established the cycle of transmission through experiments with mosquitoes and birds. These understandings have led to development of treatments of malaria including quinine and chloroquinine as we have been able to understand the transmission and the pathogenic nature of the disease
 

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In 1880, Charles Laveran observed micro-organisms in fresh blood from malarial patients and that malaria was caused by the plasmodium micro-organisms. Later in the century, Patrick Manson proposed that malaria is transmitted by mosquitoes, Ronald Ross added to this as he established that the protozoan Plasmodium was the cause of malaria, he showed it can be transmitted and thus established the cycle of transmission through experiments with mosquitoes and birds. These understandings have led to development of treatments of malaria including quinine and chloroquinine as we have been able to understand the transmission and the pathogenic nature of the disease
Quinine and chloroquine was developed prior the full understanding of all the stages of the Anopheles mosquito's life cycle.
 

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Because ADH does not control the levels of salt in the blood. It only controls the concentration of salt through water retention. (Usually because of dehydration)
It makes collecting ducts more permeable so that water can be reabsorbed back into the blood and body tissues.

And when aldosterone is released, there is more sodium absorbed which leads to more water returning to the blood (in order to complement the salt and retain normal levels)

They work off each other
You are right, that is why both ADH and adolsterone are released.
 

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