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Sy123

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Prove that the acceleration of a body a is given by a=v(dv/dx) where x and v are the displacement and velocity of the particle after a time t.


Ill edit one in as soon as I can think of one (a question)
 

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Ok, Ive got a good premise for a question. But I dont know enough to make the question more creative. But yeah here we go.

 

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Ok, Ive got a good premise for a question. But I dont know enough to make the question more creative. But yeah here we go.

centre of oscillation is directly proportional to time, so centre of oscillation is changing?
 

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Yes very much so.
 

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I'd answer this question but I am very confused as to the motion of the particle. I mean the particle moves "in a sort of SHM", really?
 

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There are 4 hints to tell you to use a trigonometric function.
"Amplitude"
"Period"
"Inverse Trig value for v=0"
"a sort of S.H.M."

Im sorry if its not too clear though. Like I said, I thought of the premise on the top of my head, and it took me a while to figure out what to ask
 

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it should be a form of SMH about the line y=x right? kinda like the GDP curve?
 
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you cant have SHM though without a defined centre of oscillation if the amplitude is constant. it just doesnt make sense to me.
 

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Your in the right track barbenator

BIG SPOILER HINT:

in a sin (nt+alpha)+b, b = kt
 

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i rly cbfd to do the question atm, but one way you could do it is to use cis(45) to rotate the sin curve.(i know its better to just do sy123's spoiler, but rotation would be a cool way :D)
 

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Your in the right track barbenator

BIG SPOILER HINT:

in a sin (nt+alpha)+b, b = kt
I had that in mind originally but how would the particle actually be moving? This isn't a maths question, i know.
 

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I had that in mind originally but how would the particle actually be moving? This isn't a maths question, i know.
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where left to right is displacement

whoops, the arrows all go to the side. NVM ill say it in words. the particle would displace to the right, and then reach a maximum and move back to the left, except it would not move as far back, and then move to the right again but further this time, and then back again but not as far, etc etc
 
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--------->
<------
--------->
<------
--------->
<-------
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where left to right is displacement

whoops, the arrows all go to the side. NVM ill say it in words. the particle would displace to the right, and then reach a maximum and move back to the left, except it would not move as far back, and then move to the right again but further this time, and then back again but not as far, etc etc
wouldnt it move just as far back because amplitude is constant?
 

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That involves the Basel Problem though, I ain't proving that shit lol.
 

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It's done in q8 of the 2010 mx2 hsc paper though, I was looking at it earlier today.
 

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