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Eg 9x^2 - 9x^4 -4 =0


Is it possible? I need to show that this thing has no solutions
 
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9x^2 - 9x^2 -4 =0

...doesnt that not work bc its like -4=0 ????
 

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Eg 9x^2 - 9x^2 -4 =0


Is it possible? I need to show that this thing has no solutions
Haha that expression means nothing because for all X, the LHS is equal to -4, which is never equal to zero. Hence there are no solutions.
 

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Haha that expression means nothing because for all X, the LHS is equal to -4, which is never equal to zero. Hence there are no solutions.
oh wait!! I wrote the question wrong can you check it again sorry
 

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Re-arrange.

9x^4 - 9x^2 + 4 = 0

This is a 'hidden quadratic' 9u^2 - 9u + 4 = 0, where u=x^2.

This quadratic has discriminant 81-4(9)(4), which is negative.

Hence, 9u^2 - 9u + 4 = 0 has no solutions and thus the original equation has no solutions.
 

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Omg how did I not notice thanks everyone!
 

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Re-arrange.

9x^4 - 9x^2 + 4 = 0

This is a 'hidden quadratic' 9u^2 - 9u + 4 = 0, where u=x^2.

This quadratic has discriminant 81-4(9)(4), which is negative.

Hence, 9u^2 - 9u + 4 = 0 has no solutions and thus the original equation has no solutions.
No 'real' solutions ^_^
But yeah that's called reducible to quadratics.
 

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No 'real' solutions ^_^
But yeah that's called reducible to quadratics.
Yep, no 'real' solutions =)

But since OP is asking a question of this level, I highly doubt that they would care for technicalities like that. I'd rather not confuse them.
 

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