how do they determine your mark (1 Viewer)

[fairladyz]

hey i know the hsc is around the corner, but i still don't know how they determine our marks!!

i'm confused, because i heard they gave you a complete new internal mark based on how well your cohort does compared to other schools in the external assessment?

and if my rank is lets say 5/30 for internal, but for external, i get like the 2nd highest mark in my class, what happens to my mark??

I'm completely lost.

Someone please help me!!

thanks.

 

[cem]

Step one - you have completed. You have done a series of assessment tasks which have resulted in a mark being sent to the BOS which also gives you a rank in your cohort.

Step two - your sit the exams and they are marked

Step three - the raw exam mark is aligned - this is the process of matching the raw marks to the Performance Bands so the marks from 0 - 100 are usually aligned upwards to reach 50 - 100 (for Bands 2 - 6).

Step four - the top aligned mark becomes the moderated school assessment mark of the top student according to the school and the bottom aligned mark becomes the moderated school assessment mark of the bottom student according to the school (assuming that neither are ties)

Step five - the total exam marks are calculated along with the mean and median and standard deviation

Step six - keeping the total exam marks, mean and standard deviation (I am not sure about median) the internal marks are calculated keeping the gaps between students and the ranks the same as sent in by the school

Coming fifth - your mark will be determined to a large extent by how far you are away from those around you - say the four in front of you and you are separate by only 2 marks then your assessment mark will stay about that difference.

You always keep you own exam mark for that 50% of the final mark.

You do NOT get the exam mark of the student who got the same rank of you in the exam so the fifth best exam mark won't automatically become your assessment mark (possible of course but not automatic). You will get the fifth ranked assessment mark which will more closely relate to the gap between you and fourth and sixth.

 

[Prashant Sallan]

What if your ranked 1st, but say you get the third mark (first got 95, and you got 85) then what happens?

 

[moll.]

They input all your data into a very advanced and high-tech machine
This machine collects the data, then promptly discards it all and drives into walls.
They then count the number of collisions, divide it by twenty and round it to the nearest .05
This is your UAI.

 

[Top Secret]

^ Really?

I thought the marks were given to oompa loompas...

 

[cem]

What if your ranked 1st, but say you get the third mark (first got 95, and you got 85) then what happens?

You keep your exam mark of 85 and get the top exam mark (say 89) as your assessment mark giving you a final HSC mark of 87.

The top and bottom ranks are determined by the top and bottom exam marks, except for ties when they average the exam marks of those ranks e.g. two equal first and the top exam mark is 94 and the second exam mark is 84 they the two equal firsts from the school ranks get 89 as their assessment and keep their own exam marks of course.

 

[fairladyz]

so if i'm ranked 5 for say economics, but in the external exam, i get the top mark, do i get a higher assessment mark than the person who got rank 1 in internal?

 

[cem]

The top exam mark becomes the top assessment mark so the person who was ranked first internally would get the top exam mark as their assessment mark.


Everyone keeps their own exam mark.

The internal marks are moderated to that criteria based on their ranks and gaps so if you are currently ranked 5th but get the top exam mark than that exam mark becomes the assessment mark of the student ranked 1st (you keep it as your exam mark).

You can not change the ranks for the internal now - they are set based on your work throughout the year.

 

[rei-10]

sorry to intrude, just quickly
if i'm ranked 1st for IPT (by a margin of 0.7 haha)
youre saying that the top STATE aligned mark becomes my assessment mark? or the top aligned mark from my year group?

 

[helper]

Firstly, the 0.7, is that going to round off to the same mark? If so, then the BOS, will treat you as equal first. No decimals are submitted with the marks.

It is the top aligned mark from your school.

 

[danal353]

I was told by my deputy principal that to put it simply, it works like this:

- Your HSC mark is yours, and it will make up half of the mark you get
- You grade does the HSC and for whatever subject, all the marks are added up to a "pool of marks" - these marks are then distributed among the cohort depending on their rank and the discrepancies between the ranks (i.e. it's better to be ranked 10th but only five marks behind the person who came first than to be ranked 3rd and be 10 marks behind)

My deputies been giving out estimate UAIs and explaining this stuff for years and a vast majority of people get within .2 or .3 of what he estimates, so I would take his word on it.

 

[cem]

I was told by my deputy principal that to put it simply, it works like this:

- Your HSC mark is yours, and it will make up half of the mark you get
- You grade does the HSC and for whatever subject, all the marks are added up to a "pool of marks" - these marks are then distributed among the cohort depending on their rank and the discrepancies between the ranks (i.e. it's better to be ranked 10th but only five marks behind the person who came first than to be ranked 3rd and be 10 marks behind)

My deputies been giving out estimate UAIs and explaining this stuff for years and a vast majority of people get within .2 or .3 of what he estimates, so I would take his word on it.

One point left out is that the top and bottom range of marks is determined by your cohort's exam marks - that is why people are asking about being ranked 5th internally and 1st externally.

 

[Aerath]

hey i know the hsc is around the corner, but i still don't know how they determine our marks!!

You don't need to.