HElp wif EXTENSION ENG (2 Viewers)

[Frank Sinatra]

i know should be somewhere else
but i need answers fast

doing crime fic


hmm trials tommorow

wat we suppose to look for man?

crime fic?
what is it?
wat is genr?e
what are conventions?

whaat sub-genres are there
and what do these sub-genres reflect?
and the techniques

what techniques in skull beneth the skin man, i only read that shit once


im doing skull beneth skin, big sleep and inspector hound

 

[Huy]

Yes, this should go in the Extension 1 English forum.

You are supposed to know everything that you have listed.

CF
Genre theory
Conventions
Categories of CF
Whodunits
Country-house

Mystery stories
Techniques
Values
Societal values
Context

etc.

 

[iambored]

go to the eng ext thread and search crime fiction, there's heaps there

 

[Frank Sinatra]

yeah
but one that tells me what am i suppose to look for

so where do quotes and stuff come in?

and im sorry that its not in ext eng, but this forum is far more accessed and i need answers fast

 

[Huy]

It'll still show up in "New threads" when someone searches

Your teacher should be telling you what to expect, etc.
If you go to Ext1 Eng forum, you will find plenty of stickies related to CF and plenty of trial questions, past and possible ones.

"Quotes and stuff" -- you're doing Extension, and you're asking?
Sorry, but I don't mean to insult your intelligence, it's just that this should all be second nature to you.

 

[iambored]

look at past questions, and c what they ask 4. make notes based on that.

in the past qs u'll c what u should discuss about the texts. thats where the quotes come in, in discussing the texts

 

[Huy]

You've left it pretty late to be revising for your Extension trial.

Not a good sign when you don't know your texts, quotes, values, techniques, or even how to quote?

Good luck, and I mean that.

 

[Frank Sinatra]

see, i asked teacher about past questions and shit
she goes for 2 yrs they been similar, but its only testing a very narrow range in the course
when it should be testing a lot more

and shes making the test
so dunno wat to expect

she goes study the ideology of crime
, tats quite big
so im thinking,
the conventions of the genre(define genre and conventions) and the subgenres in our core text and supps, and why tehse conventions occur and what ideas, themes and issues are explored in these texts-> contextual forces

and when i say quotes, i mean how to use quotes
how for example u use a quote to show that the composer is referring to certain aspect of c/f

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

use quotes 2 support ur argument


edit: fuck got ext1 exam 2moro 2.... not that our teacher has helped -_-

 

[iambored]

yep and yep
just do that if thats what u think, and thats how u use quotes, to backup what u say, as u do in 2u eng

 

[Huy]

you can't really quote for TBS
so you'll have to use film noir, the femme fatale, etc

they would be your conventions

for the real insp.
you can then quote
"puckeridge, you cunning bastard"
"there is a murderer in our midst"
"thick swamps surround this strangely inaccessible house"
"i hope you're not cheating simon"
"sometimes i've dreamt that i've killed him"

then you can link quotes from the real insp. with the absurdist drama, role reversals, going back to escapism and the traditional choccie/comfort/cosy theatre, then talk about double entendres and things like the real inspector hound being a complete goofball.

go to www.boredofstudies.org
ext 1 eng
download the CF notes
read them

and, go to the ext 1 forum
(as i've said above)
read the stickies on CF
and you'll find out heaps.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Originally posted by Frank Sinatra
see, i asked teacher about past questions and shit
she goes for 2 yrs they been similar, but its only testing a very narrow range in the course
when it should be testing a lot more

and shes making the test
so dunno wat to expect

she goes study the ideology of crime
, tats quite big
so im thinking,
the conventions of the genre(define genre and conventions) and the subgenres in our core text and supps, and why tehse conventions occur and what ideas, themes and issues are explored in these texts-> contextual forces

and when i say quotes, i mean how to use quotes
how for example u use a quote to show that the composer is referring to certain aspect of c/f

I don't know if this is too late, but I'd study the reasons why the genre has remained popular, and the evolution of the genre..

Like Snow Falling On Cedars representing 'Post-Modern' CF because it has a self-reflective narrator, is multi-generic, and has intertextual elements (EG: Amnity Harbour).

Quotes are supposed to support your argument, so possibly quotes that reflect the genre, like in 'Hound Of The Baskervilles', the line "His ignorance is as extraordinary as his knowledge', which emphathises the single-minded nature of the 'Classic' detective. (Also good to compare with Ishmael Chambers, assuming you're doing SFOC)

Good luck.

 

[Huy]

He's not doing Guterson

 

[iambored]

did you not have a 1/2 yearly?

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

www.filmsite.org/bigs.html for bigsleep quotes which u can integrate into ur essay... some racy dialogues may b a good example when u talkin bout conventions

i think this module, bout genre is gonna b about defining, extending, subverting the genre relating to conventions, value + attitudes and how a contexts affect these developments


edit: do u go2 sydney boys?

 

[Huy]

Good point iambored.

The half yearly should parallel the trials/HSC.
Same format,

Section I - Analytical essay (could be an extended response I guess)
Section II - Creative composition

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Originally posted by Huy
He's not doing Guterson

My bad.

Well, to make up.. Here are a couple of useful quotes from The Big Sleep.

It began as a blackmail case and all at once things began to happen (Web-like structure)
So many guns in the world and so few brains (This one could be related to the depiction of the 'dark underbelly' of society.)

 

[Constip8edSkunk]

not necessarily huy, tho trials and hsc should mirror each other by their nature

 

[Huy]

Originally posted by Constip8edSkunk
not necessarily huy, tho trials and hsc should mirror each other by their nature

Point taken

but my half yearlies were the same as your typical hsc ext 1 format.
(even my prelim exam was in 'hsc format')

the same goes for the trials (of course)

 

[iambored]

yeah my 1/2 yearlys were in trial paper format, taken from past trials actually