Re: The UTS 'Secks and Welcome To Your New Mod!' Thread
Musk said:
Any educated person would know that this
organisation sets HECS and if one group of students told them to get fucked , they just wouldn't care. Its like VSU, you morons just couldn't stfu of crisiting Howard and thus he fucked you back....hard.
I'm not a fan of Howard or Rudd (swinger voter) but i know Howard got the last laugh and Rudd wont do anything.
Besides if you cunts were so effective then why does no one sign up to SA nor the union?
Also to add, there are worst countries out there than US and Howard with the war in Iraq, why not say something about Burma, or the human rights abuse in china?
AND the most shameful thing, you protect muslims whilst you don't approach them during elections. You don't support students, you support yourselves.
Actually you know whats the most corrupt thing about you lot, you say you support renewable energy whist none of you lot are solar energy/renewable engineers. But journalists expecting us cunts to do all the work for you; you don't fully support solar power unless you are committed to being apart of the solution and enroll into renewable engineering at UNSW.
Ill give you a head start
here is the link for uac (
http://www.uac.edu.au/)
and here is the link for UNSW for the School of Photovoltaic and Renewable Engineering (
http://www.pv.unsw.edu.au/)
1. Is it really necessary for you to keep referring to us as "c*nts"? Stop hurling abuse. It's not necessary.
2. The SRC/Student's Association represents students at a state and national level; during elections, the student body elects student representatives for NUS (National Union of Students), and that's where action can be taken on a national level. Yes, it is the Australian Government that sets HECS, which is why we need strong student organisations to lobby against HECS increases. In the most recent HECS increase, the Federal Government initially increased HECS by 30%. It was through student action that this was brought down to 25%. This may not be a huge success, but it was better than nothing, and it was through student action that this was achieved.
In the mid-late 90s, it was through student action that VSU was successfully blocked. The SRCs from UTS, UNSW and USYD rallied up thousands of students to march down George St in protest, and it worked. Unfortunately,i in more recent times, it has not been as successful, but that does not mean that student organisations should give up.
3. Since the introduction of VSU, student unions and SAs from all universities have experienced a huge decline in numbers. I would not say that this reflects the effectiveness of the SA or the Union; rather, I would say that when something isn't compulsory, students are less likely to dish out hundreds of dollars to join something. Then again, neither of us have adequate research or statistics to prove this, so I don't think it's fair for either of us to make a claim about the effectiveness of the SA.
4. The Student's Association at UTS allows ANY UTS student to come in and start a campaign -- this year they ran the "Enrol to Vote" campaign which involved the free BBQ, and someone else started the "Make Howard History" campaign. The leaders of the SA do not decide which campaigns are run, instead, ordinary students with certain views and agendas come in and ask the SA to help them run their own campaigns. If some UTS students want to speak out about Bush and Iraq, then so be it. If any students would like to start a campaign about Burma, then they are more than welcome to.
5. I think it's a bit ironic that you would claim that the Go! team have not approached Muslim students, seeing that our entire team has spoken to students for the past two weeks around all the UTS campuses, whereas I (heart) UTS have not. We have spoken at lectures large and small, we've frequented the cafes and union eateries everyday to speak one-on-one with students (regardless of their ethnic/religious/sexual background, we have approached them to ask them for their thoughts on the SA and Vertigo, and shared our policies with them). We've even gone to tutorials to speak to students. Your claim does not hold.
6. Since when did someone have to be a solar/renewable engineer to support solar power or renewable energy? That's just silly. If someone supports a cure for cancer, does that mean they have to become a scientist or medical researcher? If someone supports quality education, does that mean they have to become a teacher? And FYI, all the journalism students on the Go! team are running for Vertigo... y'know...the student NEWSPAPER, not that this would matter of course, because, clearly, all journalism students are corrupt scum who don't care about the environment?
7. With regards to your posters, Kamal struck a deal with us to not cover our posters if we did not cover I (heart) UTS's. We agreed. What did we find when we came in the next day? That I (heart) UTS had covered over the Go! posters. Thus, the deal was broken. Go! posters were also defaced with personal insults and we had to go around pulling down ours too. Also, it's election time -- I don't think anyone can complain about having long days. I don't think that anyone can play the victim here.
8. You keep telling us to stop making generalisations about I (Heart) UTS being a conservative Liberal ticket; maybe you should stop making generalisations about the Go! team being corrupt "c*unts", based on the grounds that I do journalism. Silly.
