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well actually it works both ways

i said "Im sure..."

so it is my assumption

and if he refuted my assumption he needs some factual or logical backing

its like someone saying.. im sure libya will be a democracy

and then someone says "no they won't..." and leaves it at that

he should then support it with evidence like " read this article"

if they dont support it with facts, then they shouldnt be refuting assumptions but rather just sharing theirs and letting both stand as opinions

case closed

(im sure someone is looking for facts as we speak)
No sorry you made a claim/assumption/assertion/statement before he did and you therefore need to support it with facts.

Or you can withdraw it.
 
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You're missing the point and derailing the thread.

Prove it or we will assume you're making it up.

I've edited my post for you. :)
 

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No sorry you made a claim/assumption/assertion/statement before he did and you therefore need to support it with facts.

Or you can withdraw it.
no thats not true at all

catholics have no factual basis to say that there is a god

but they assume/believe etc that there is

now when people say "no there isnt" and they refute their belief/claim/assumption whatever

it would be necessary to provide a logical/factual basis to say that ones belief/claim/assumption is incorrect

if they do not have any basis for refuting then they should just SHARE their opinion without placing anyone elses assumptions in disrepute

then BOTH can just stand as opinions

i think that is fair enough

(plus i DID NOT say "100% it is proven that 8-9/10 straight kids are bullied" i said "im sure" - essence of uncertainty is still held within that)
 
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oh fuck you're hurting my head.

you don't make a claim without evidence. you're saying because catholics use a fallacious argument to prove the existence of a god you can use that same broken train of thought in an argument? hgnngngngng
 

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yes the catholics et al do claim that god exists without proof

thats why we know think they are morons
 

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Big difference between claims and assumptions but azure classified them together so I just did the same to prove my point

Anyway it doesn't matter

Homos get bullied?
Ok then.
 

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yes the catholics et al do claim that god exists without proof

thats why we know think they are morons
No proof to say it doesn't
So their assumptions and beliefs are allowed to stand as opinions

And atheists are allowed to assume there isn't one

No evidence for either
So both can, and do, stand

Neither shud be called a moron either

Anyway back on topic..
 

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No proof to say it doesn't
So their assumptions and beliefs are allowed to stand as opinions

And atheists are allowed to assume there isn't one

No evidence for either
So both can, and do, stand

Neither shud be called a moron either

Anyway back on topic..
Christians reckon earth was made in 7 days, we were created by two people and we were the first beings to walk the earth.

Where as science shows the earth took millions of years to be made, populating a planet via only two parents is impossible and incestuous and single cell organisms were the first living things on earth.
 

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Christians reckon earth was made in 7 days, we were created by two people and we were the first beings to walk the earth.

Where as science shows the earth took millions of years to be made, populating a planet via only two parents is impossible and incestuous and single cell organisms were the first living things on earth.
no
catholics reckon that

and u wud have 2 be pretty stupid to take the bible literally (not u personally)

anyways this is about gays getting bashed
(b4 someone kindly reminds me :/ )
 

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pretty much as science keeps on proving religion wrong, more and more 'progressive' streams of a religion appear, i.e. looks like we're wrong again, lets just pretend this bit of text which we used to take as fact was just in reality a metaphor
 

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no
catholics reckon that

and u wud have 2 be pretty stupid to take the bible literally (not u personally)

anyways this is about gays getting bashed
(b4 someone kindly reminds me :/ )
Who gives a tosh, its all the same god.
 

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