Evangelists rewrite Texan curriculum (1 Viewer)

[bazrah]

every christian on bos is basically complicit in this, whether they admit it or not

discuss

Bahahahahaha go and learn the definition of complicit.

 

[Graney]

no no

I'm super open minded to human biological differences, I agree the argument has been over politicized, but the evidence for differences in racial intelligence isn't conclusive, by my reading of existing scientific literature, you can't say with certainty differences in outcomes for racial groups have been caused significantly by biological differences.

For every paper by J. Philippe Rushton, or Arthur Jensen, there are sound responses, criticisms and dismissal of much of the work they've done. They haven't been able to put unassailable truths out there and simply had them ignored, they're taken seriously as academics and there exists a robust discourse of peer reviewed literature challenging their ideas out there.

If you're just trolling to make people open to the idea, fair game, I've made the same argument, for too many people it's a foolishly closed debate. But it'd be just as bad to swear to a gospel that blacks are certainly inferior.

but even before evolutionary thought HBD was universally accepted as true

darwin didn't even care about HBD he just dismissed it as trivially obvious and moved on from it

You seem to be suggesting it is a virtue that people would be prejudiced to ideas of racial inequality?

Biological inequality in intelligence might be a truth, certainly worth investigating, and if properly verified it is a good thing to observe.

But it's terrible to glorify the historic practice of bigotry, praising the wise men who could see the 'trivially obvious'. Causation isn't that simple. If darwin believed this, it was a bad, unscientific belief he held.

 

[Rabbi_Bob]

Anyone with half a brain, instead of bagging out a religion, would study the rest, and compare.
Islam, makes a HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL x infinity alot more sense than christianity, a religion which makes absolutely no fucking sense, and full of absolute contradictions. Its barbaric, but hypocritical christians just chose to believe what ever the hell they want, and disregard the rest. And they worship a man.

And those im talking about are Sylvester or sum shit. You are an absolute dumb cunt. And Rothbard, he's an asbolute mongulated pile of shit. He has absolutely no idea what hes talking bout.

 

[brendroid]

My understanding of Islam is that it respects people of the book (ie; Jews and Christians). My understanding of Islam is that it also calls for jihad on people of other religions.

My understanding of Christianity is that it wants peace for all the world. My understanding of Christianity is that it wants to spread the good news, and make the world a lovely place full of Christians.

You asked us to compare, I'm comparing.

Islam seems to, in practise, butcher homosexuals. Christianity declared it an abomination and, in many of their countries throughout the Middle Ages and into the Early Modern era, it was illegal and considered a mental illness.

My understanding of Islam is that it produced a society that's incredibly radical and turbulent called the Middle East. My understanding of Christianity is that it created a society where the people eventually began to think and we had the Enlightenment.

My understanding of these Texan people is that they are typical Americans who think their country is a beacon of light in the world (when in reality it's important but not a godsend) and who on earth tries to teach slavery is good? are they preparing these Texan kids to enslave the Iraqi people and make Iraq the 51st state?

*facepalm*

My confidence in America in general is dwindling.

 

[cosmo kramer]

For every paper by J. Philippe Rushton, or Arthur Jensen, there are sound responses, criticisms and dismissal of much of the work they've done. They haven't been able to put unassailable truths out there and simply had them ignored, they're taken seriously as academics and there exists a robust discourse of peer reviewed literature challenging their ideas out there.

It really depends on you consider takes them seriously. Within their fields, yes, they are taken seriously. Outside them they are loathed (particularly Rushton), dismissed as completely and utterly wrong, and are even called to be revoked as academics, censored, or worse. This suggests a dogmatic orthodoxy that refuses to even face up to the possibility of even a quarter of what they say being right. This is my primary objection.

I'm super open minded to human biological differences, I agree the argument has been over politicized, but the evidence for differences in racial intelligence isn't conclusive, by my reading of existing scientific literature, you can't say with certainty differences in outcomes for racial groups have been caused significantly by biological differences.

It differs from outcome to outcome. BTW, this is the first coherent post made against many of my claims on this forum that I have ever read. You are certainly correct that the evidence is not conclusive at this stage (I touched upon this in a previous post) and we can't say much with certainty. The legitimacy of human racial taxonomic classifications definitely has merit, and I think you may find it difficult to argue against the proposal that physical differences exist across human population groups, but many of the other (and far more controversial) arguments that I make regarding race and intelligence, psychological differences outside those directly under the influence of g, and the potential incompatibility of different races (as groups) and different cultures that stems from these psychological and physical differences are still tentative.

But it'd be just as bad to swear to a gospel that blacks are certainly inferior.

Establishing some sort of superiority/inferiority hierachy of different human biological groups is not in my interest whatsoever. I don't think you can logically conclude that even if blacks are less intelligent on average from other races as a result of intrinsic biological reasons that therefore that must mean that they really are "inferior". Inferior why? Inferior in what sense? For an organism, inferiority/superiority is absolutely relative to the situation and surroundings of that organism. If the proposed race/IQ paradigm is indeed true, then that would probably mean that certain races are superior to other races with regards to creating and maintaining civilizations. But just from being better in that respect that does not at all imply that an overall ranking of superiority/inferiority is possible. If I found myself in Africa tomorrow, I would probably find my skin peeling off from the hot sun pretty quickly. Being good at the art of civilization is only one thing one can be good at.

I am primarily disgusted by the actions of progressives, who cloak themselves in a Darwinist, rationalist veil, yet, hypocritically censure anybody who even suggests that human biological differences are possible. Maybe if HBD was like Young Earth Creationism and had absolutely no scientific merit whatsoever this would be justifiable, but clearly there is a debate still going here (and it looks like hereditarians like Jensen, Murray, Rushton, Gottfredson etc. may have the upper-hand), which makes their actions deplorable. It is one thing to disagree that these ideas are right, but to say with absolute certainty that they are not, and to shout down anybody who disagrees (which is what progressives do) and call for their censorship or imprisonment is not.

The other thing worth mentioning is the policy prescriptions that flow from the heriditarian/egalitarian paradigm. Because racial egalitarianism is absolute orthodoxy in politics and outside the fields where its underpinnings are being debated, therefore we are subjected to egalitarian social policy. Many of our social policies such as social engineering, immigration, encouraged multiculturalism/multiracialism, anti-discrimination laws, racial quotas in employment and education etc. are intellectually founded upon racial egalitarianism, in part or in total. This is an example of why the only people who really believe (besides white supremacists, etc) that this is a decided argument are my opponents. These policy prescriptions, based on something which is still obviously tentative, are incredibly dangerous. I have favoured policy prescriptions of my own, and I base them on what I call a default position. The default position was inspired by some of Charles Murray's particular writings, and I consider it the most sensible position to take. I won't get into the details of this right now though.

Speaking on behalf of myself, many of the things I say here are presented as if I am absolutely sure of what I say, but a lot of that is bluster. I may be firmly within the heriditarian camp, consider myself a racial realist and believe that in itself, the white race is worthy of preservation, but that doesn't mean that I speak with total certainity when I speak of these matters. There's still a lot we don't know, but we will know more as time continues to go by. I don't think it'll really matter though; if it turns out I'm right, we will likely have reached a point where governments will simply suppress the research confirming HBD completely. The egalitarian position is great for big business and officious bureaucrats, and, even if proven with certainty, will never be accepted by blacks and other minority groups.

As for the second portion of your post, it's much less important so I'll reply to it later. If my response was sloppy here it was because I'm tired.

 

[Rabbi_Bob]

My understanding of Islam is that it respects people of the book (ie; Jews and Christians). My understanding of Islam is that it also calls for jihad on people of other religions.

My understanding of Christianity is that it wants peace for all the world. My understanding of Christianity is that it wants to spread the good news, and make the world a lovely place full of Christians.

You asked us to compare, I'm comparing.

Islam seems to, in practise, butcher homosexuals. Christianity declared it an abomination and, in many of their countries throughout the Middle Ages and into the Early Modern era, it was illegal and considered a mental illness.

My understanding of Islam is that it produced a society that's incredibly radical and turbulent called the Middle East. My understanding of Christianity is that it created a society where the people eventually began to think and we had the Enlightenment.

My understanding of these Texan people is that they are typical Americans who think their country is a beacon of light in the world (when in reality it's important but not a godsend) and who on earth tries to teach slavery is good? are they preparing these Texan kids to enslave the Iraqi people and make Iraq the 51st state?

*facepalm*

My confidence in America in general is dwindling.

Please, for your own good, tell me you are joking or trolling?
If not, get ready for a bad ATAR. Or do Special ed kids even get atars?

 

[brendroid]

And why would I be recieving a bad ATAR, oh wise Rabbi sir?

 

[Rabbi_Bob]

And why would I be recieving a bad ATAR, oh wise Rabbi sir?

Because you are fucking stupid as fuck.
Dont worry, you do girl/gay subjects neways.

 

[brendroid]

That's right, attack the person instead of what they say... we have a mighty clever debater right here. Have a cookie, Rabbi.

 

[Rabbi_Bob]

That's right, attack the person instead of what they say... we have a mighty clever debater right here. Have a cookie, Rabbi.

Mate, i dont even know where i am.
Forgivenkqna mesh matesdf

 

[h4wtcut3bunni]

just acept that god made us and that the dinosaruds didnt rely exist. just bcause there is random bones doesnt mean they existed1!!1

 

[murphyad]

Fuck you are the worst troll ever

 

[cosmo kramer]

lol

 

[blueduck]

just acept that god made us and that the dinosaruds didnt rely exist. just bcause there is random bones doesnt mean they existed1!!1

i totally agree! and like just cuz we are like randomly unable to float in to space doesnt mean that gravity exists!!! i mean lyk who cares about the overwhelming evidence presented by inumerable experiemnts and observations when we can say that some random mystical/homicidal dude did it!11!!! lyk srsly just accept it people!!111!!11!11

 

[Garygaz]

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[Jazuzi]

dam i wasted like 2 and almost a half minutes on that

 

[Garygaz]

and you didn't see the humor in it?

 

[Jazuzi]

there is no humor

 

[Garygaz]

it's not laugh out loud funny its more a contempt feeling of lulz when you realise how retarded america is in some particular ways considering it is run by secular government.

 

[cosmo kramer]

yeah but it isnt funny