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Enough Nuclear Weapons To Destroy The Whole World? (1 Viewer)

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You can dismantle the weapons (although you'd have to do it very carefully..) and use parts of it for other things.
 

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Article 1:

There Are Nukes All Over The US



There are 5113 nuclear weapons in the US right now, Mother Jones reports. That’s enough to destroy the entire planet many, many, many, many times over. And then there are the country’s ageing nuclear plants.

This terrific map by MoJo shows how littered the US is with nuclear stuff — active weapons ready to be tossed should the whole “Soviet Union collapsing” thing turn out to be a mistake, dormant weapons awaiting disposal and active nuclear reactors. Although most of the weapons are locked away inside the country’s interior, tucked into sleepy silos, there’s plenty out there — and maybe closer than you think.

What can you do about it? Nothing. Should you care? Probably — the US has a superabundance of warheads it doesn’t need and a nuclear power grid we have reason to be cautious about. And none of it’s going anywhere. [Mother Jones]

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/11/there-are-nukes-all-over-the-us/
 

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Mankind Has Created 128,000 Nukes, But 2% Are A Mystery



A new report on nuclear proliferation is — surprise! — kind of terrifying, revealing some disconcerting facts about nuclear warheads, who has them, and what we don’t know. The bottom line: holy hell, we’ve built a lot of these things.

The paper, “Beyond the United Kingdom: Trends in Other Nuclear States”, is chock full of radioactive numbers, Mother Jones reports.

“It is estimated that more than 128,000 nuclear warheads have been built since 1945, all but two per cent of them by the United States and the Soviet Union/Russia.”

That leaves a lot of nukes unaccounted for. The UK and France are open about their nuclear program, but China, India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea don’t give up any information whatsoever. Of course, that’s all since 1945 — things have changed since then. We’ve blown up a bunch of them, many have been retired:

In summer 2010, the world’s nine nuclear states possessed an estimated 22,400 intact warheads. Ninety-five per cent belonged to the US and Russia.

Again, the Big Nuclear Two have most of the plutonium toys. 22,400 is a huge drop from 128,000 career nukes — way to go, humans! — but these numbers are all misleading. 22,400 nuclear weapons is pretty much an absurd concept. It would only take a small fraction of that to end all of human civilisation. But hey, at least we’ve got backups, right?

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/11/mankind-has-created-128000-nukes-but-2-are-a-mystery/
 

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death from WW1 and WW2 civilian included

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
WW1 15 million
WW2 60 million
75 million total


figures from wiki unless otherwise indicated, probs won’t be accurate obviously, as no one can know, but just to give an idea.

Figures

15 million – 61 million USSR
40-70 million in Mao china
1.400,000 – 2.500,000 Cambodia
50,000 and 100,000 Bulgaria
80,000 and 100,000 east Germany
60,000 and 300,000 Romania
710,000 to slightly over 3,500,000 NK from 1948 to 1987 (to what extent they are still going on, we don't know)
50,000 to 900,000 in north Vietnam after they beat the French and were reorganising the country
500,000 in Ethiopia
like 500 in the 4 month soviet regime of Hungary
and other regimes I cbf naming

Black book of communism (1997) quotes a figure of 94 million, I won’t use that

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first Indochina war 570,000 military, (that includes French, Nv and the Vietnamese supporting the French) 150,000 civilians
Second Indochina war (Vietnam war) US and allies 315,384 – 412,000, NV and allies 1,177,462 (that the highest estimation, I'd take about 300,000 off, US over counted dead bodies a lot, they had quotas to fill)
Civilians killed 1,912,846 – 3,992,846
Korean war, US and allies 178,569 dead, NK and allies 1,187,682–1,545,822, civilians killed SK, 373,599 killed NK, 1,550,000 estimation
Afghanistan war 1979-89 soviets 14,453 Killed, afghan government on soviet side 18,000 killed, Mujahideen 200,000-1 000,000
Civilians 600,000-2,000,000 killed afghans, 100 soviet
Once again you could count lots of other things but I cbf like US involvement in Lebanon and the deaths caused by other US puppet states like pre 1979 Iran or Israel

Total without war 56,450,500- 138,900,500
With warz 65,821,033- 145,720191

As I said just to give you an idea, I could include all the other related things but no matter how you look at it, fuck load of people died
 

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where does that 15-61 million for the USSR come from
 

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where does that 15-61 million for the USSR come from
all from wiki mate

I don't agree with 61 million at all I'd say closer to 20 million myself (and that is the general consensus) cut 40 million out of the high total its still 100 million, of course again I haven't put in everything, just enough to give people an idea

in general minus the wars and American imperialism people say killing under communism in the 20 century easily over 80 million up to 100 million as blastus indicated
 

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Its a depressing realist situation. But its necessary if dominance is to remain, I couldn't really care If I died if everyone else did.

Wouldn't that be great for environmentalists?
 

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who cares if people die, seriously? most people are useless and don't deserve the air they breathe
 

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Dominating countries such as America,China and the Russia are profound to be the upcoming "Out runners" in global domination. With lower ranked countries concerning global domination such as Iran burden the Nuclear weapons because they want nuclear weapons so they can be seen as a threat.. in my opinion.

Even though with the current recession in Europe and America seeming to weaken the economy and the middle eastern countries with the booming Oil and fuel industries and such thus wanting themselves to be seen as leaders, with a stable artillery of nuclear weapons. Also with China's growing army is definitely concerning other countries..

Meanwhile people are starving in Africa.
 
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