David Hicks- back in Australia (1 Viewer)

[jb_nc]

Well now you just sound like an ignorant, uncouth tradesman type.

fucking tradesmen what have they done for australia except be ignorant and uncouth

ohg wait

 

[cute.asa.button]

i love how britney keeps referring us to wikipedia as a source. sorry to burst the bubble but it isn't really a valid source. whilst usefull and sometimes accurate, anyone can put whatever they want in there, and therefore it is not a legitimate encyclopedia of information.
Also, it is true that the US funded al-qaeda. Small history lesson:

al qaeda was formed by Osama bin Laden and the mujahadeen that fought with him in afghanistan in the 1980's against the soviet occupation. Osama bin laden was a wealthy Saudi and the mujahadeen who came to fight in the 'jihad' to remove the soviet from Muslim soil came from all over the world (mostly other Middle Eastern Countries.) Therefore, after the Soviet was defeated and they all went home, these militarily trained mujahadeen formed the loosely connected network that is al qaeda.
When they fought in afghanistan, the US, through influential CIA operative William Casey, sent another CIA operative into Afghanistan to befriend the Muslims who were fighting the Soviet Union and offer them whatever resources (money/weapons) the US could provide. They did this in order to ensure that the Soviet Union got caught up in an expensive and longwinded war which they would hopefully eventually loose, destabalising the Union and leaving the US as the worlds sole superpower.

End of lesson.

 

[BritneySpears]

i love how britney keeps referring us to wikipedia as a source. sorry to burst the bubble but it isn't really a valid source. whilst usefull and sometimes accurate, anyone can put whatever they want in there, and therefore it is not a legitimate encyclopedia of information.
Also, it is true that the US funded al-qaeda. Small history lesson:

al qaeda was formed by Osama bin Laden and the mujahadeen that fought with him in afghanistan in the 1980's against the soviet occupation. Osama bin laden was a wealthy Saudi and the mujahadeen who came to fight in the 'jihad' to remove the soviet from Muslim soil came from all over the world (mostly other Middle Eastern Countries.) Therefore, after the Soviet was defeated and they all went home, these militarily trained mujahadeen formed the loosely connected network that is al qaeda.
When they fought in afghanistan, the US, through influential CIA operative William Casey, sent another CIA operative into Afghanistan to befriend the Muslims who were fighting the Soviet Union and offer them whatever resources (money/weapons) the US could provide. They did this in order to ensure that the Soviet Union got caught up in an expensive and longwinded war which they would hopefully eventually loose, destabalising the Union and leaving the US as the worlds sole superpower.

End of lesson.

You failed. Mujahedeen fighting soviets and Al-qaeda were not the same organisation. Eventhough many of those Mujahedeen went on to became Taliban and Al-Qaeda. CIA cannot support a organisation that does not exist as a terroro orgnisation before 1989 when US helped Mujahedeen.

The story about bin Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/08/15/bergen.answers/index.html

Al-Qaeda leader's own word supported this.

Al Qaeda's number two leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, confirmed that the "Afghan Arabs" did not receive any U.S. funding during the war in Afghanistan. In the book that was described as his last will, Knights Under the Prophet's Banner, which was serialized in December 2001 in Al-Sharq al-Awsat, al-Zawahiri says the Afghan Arabs were funded with money from Arab sources, which amounted to hundreds of millions of dollars:

"While the United States backed Pakistan and the mujahidin factions with money and equipment, the young Arab mujahidin's relationship with the United States was totally different."

"... The financing of the activities of the Arab mujahidin in Afghanistan came from aid sent to Afghanistan by popular organizations. It was substantial aid."

"The Arab mujahidin did not confine themselves to financing their own jihad but also carried Muslim donations to the Afghan mujahidin themselves. Usama Bin Ladin has apprised me of the size of the popular Arab support for the Afghan mujahidin that amounted, according to his sources, to $200 million in the form of military aid alone in 10 years. Imagine how much aid was sent by popular Arab organizations in the non-military fields such as medicine and health, education and vocational training, food, and social assistance ...."

"Through the unofficial popular support, the Arab mujahidin established training centers and centers for the call to the faith. They formed fronts that trained and equipped thousands of Arab mujahidin and provided them with living expenses, housing, travel and organization." (Al-Sharq al-Awsat, December 3, 2001, Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS), GMP20011202000401)

Abdullah Anas, an Algerian who was one of the foremost Afghan Arab organizers and the son-in-law of Abdullah Azzam, has also confirmed that the CIA had no relationship with the Afghan Arabs. Speaking on the French television program Zone Interdit on September 12, 2004, Anas stated:

"If you say there was a relationship in the sense that the CIA used to meet with Arabs, discuss with them, prepare plans with them, and to fight with them -- it never happened."

http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-318760.html
Nothing have changed much on terrorism since 15 years ago, most terrorists are arabs, funded by arabs (see above on Al-Qaeda leader's statement), and are muslims.

Meanwhile:

Bill to stop Hicks making money from story
May 29, 2007 03:02pm
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THE South Australian Government will introduce legislation this week to stop confessed terrorism supporter David Hicks from selling his story.

Attorney-General Michael Atkinson said today legislation would be introduced to state parliament this week to cover any loopholes in federal laws that Hicks might seek to exploit.

"I am concerned that Hicks may try to profit from telling the tale of his exploits, his detention and his conviction," Mr Atkinson said.

"Questions have also been raised about the adequacy of federal legislation with the prime minister saying the Commonwealth may have to act to close any loopholes.

"We are not going to take any chances that the gap will be left unfilled.

"That is why we are proposing the South Australian parliament pass this Bill to stop him selling his story."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21814246-421,00.html

I think they should let him sold his story first then seize the money, and use it to pay back his luxury pvt jet trip from Guantanamo to Adelaide.

 

[mr EaZy]

Nothing have changed much on terrorism since 15 years ago, most terrorists are arabs, funded by arabs (see above on Al-Qaeda leader's statement), and are muslims.

wasnt true back then

still isnt true today!


at least bring your source on that one!

 

[mr EaZy]

with the cia funding bin laden- they didnt have any checkbooks directing payments to bin laden- but the americans dont deny that some of their resources expended later fell into the hands of al-qaeda when it was formed

but its not substantial- al-qaeda prefers chinese/soviet small arms weapons and american stinger rockets