Crackdown on welfare for under 20s (1 Viewer)

[Graney]

Crackdown on welfare for under 20s


PEOPLE aged under 20 who are not working, studying or training will lose the Youth Allowance under a goverment push to set the nation up for a strong recovery from the ongoing recession.

And the tighter eligibility standards on the Youth Allowance will also apply to Family Tax Benefit Part A, meaning the parents of young people who are not at school or in training will no longer be eligible for the benefit.

Kevin Rudd and state premiers meeting at the Council of Australian Governments today agreed to use the economic downturn to lift the nation's emphasis on training, rather than allowing young people to languish on dole queues.

And the Prime Minister also offered the states access to a $100 million incentive fund if they lift Year 12 completion rates.

Arguing that high school retention rates deliver stronger economic productivity, COAG agreed to aim to lift the retention rate from the current 74 per cent to 90 per cent by 2015 _ bringing the target forward five years from previous plans.

Speaking after the meeting, Mr Rudd said he was not prepared to allow the recession to consign a generation of young people to the ranks of the long-term unemployed.

“We cannot repeat the mistakes of the past where young poeple who lose their jobs today become the long-term unemployed of the future,” the Prime Minister said.

“Let's make a difference this time.”

The premiers also agreed that all unemployed people aged under 25 would be entitled to a training position to lift their skills to make them more employable.

“This is for us a universal entitlement,” Mr Rudd said.

http://community.boredofstudies.org...itics/208760/crackdown-welfare-under-20s.html

Crackdown on welfare for under 20s | The Australian

Seems fair, although I think there are fatter cows they could have gone after before youth welfare.

I'm curious about this bit towards the end

The premiers also agreed that all unemployed people aged under 25 would be entitled to a training position to lift their skills to make them more employable.

The training programs undertaken presently as part of newstart are by all accounts, bullshit, complete waste of time. I wonder if 'entitled' will be a euphemism for mandated.

 

[Eclipse008]

Crackdown on welfare for under 20s | The Australian

Seems fair, although I think there are fatter cows they could have gone after before youth welfare.

I'm curious about this bit towards the end

The premiers also agreed that all unemployed people aged under 25 would be entitled to a training position to lift their skills to make them more employable.

The training programs undertaken presently as part of newstart are by all accounts, bullshit, complete waste of time. I wonder if 'entitled' will be a euphemism for mandated.

My girlfriend lost her job due to the recession, and the courses offered by newstart are absolute shit. They are very limited, and as any idiot can do them, hardly make anyone employable.

 

[jb_nc]

My girlfriend lost her job due to the recession, and the courses offered by newstart are absolute shit. They are very limited, and as any idiot can do them, hardly make anyone employable.

anyone can do em

im too good for that

 

[Eclipse008]

anyone can do em

im too good for that

I hardly what I said is an elitest attitude.
It's fucking logic. you have 500 people at the local tafe doing the same course because they lost their job - it'll hardly differentiate you from the rest of the pack

 

[jb_nc]

I hardly what I said is an elitest attitude.
It's fucking logic. you have 500 people at the local tafe doing the same course because they lost their job - it'll hardly differentiate you from the rest of the pack

So do the same course at a TAFE that isn't local.

There's your differential.

 

[Mu5hi]

Youth allowance is pretty useless, unless you move out. They are alot of other places where they can slash welfare e.g unemployment benfit, people have been on it for years.

 

[44Ronin]

It's a return of this bob hawke 'clever country' bullshit..........

 

[Ben Netanyahu]

The source of our nations problems is Youth Allowance. That's what's killing America.

What a load of tripe. Is there any evidence to suggest that people who're unemployed and on Youth Allowance right now are going to (at a higher rate than otherwise) all become bums?

RAWR!

 

[Graney]

It will be OKAY policy depending on the quality and diversity of training and education options available.

Not people studying basket weaving because their benefits will be cut off otherwise.

 

[44Ronin]

It will be OKAY policy depending on the quality and diversity of training and education options available.

Not people studying basket weaving because their benefits will be cut off otherwise.

Shutup...........basket weaving is a useful and practical subject.

 

[Graney]

Definetly. What we don't want is people just enrolling in basket weaving to claim welfare, and taking places from the real basket weaving fans.

 

[44Ronin]

Rudd says we need more retail traineeships

 

[SnowFox]

http://community.boredofstudies.org...itics/208760/crackdown-welfare-under-20s.html

Crackdown on welfare for under 20s | The Australian

Seems fair, although I think there are fatter cows they could have gone after before youth welfare.

I'm curious about this bit towards the end

The premiers also agreed that all unemployed people aged under 25 would be entitled to a training position to lift their skills to make them more employable.

The training programs undertaken presently as part of newstart are by all accounts, bullshit, complete waste of time. I wonder if 'entitled' will be a euphemism for mandated.

My mother is one of them.

My girlfriend lost her job due to the recession, and the courses offered by newstart are absolute shit. They are very limited, and as any idiot can do them, hardly make anyone employable.

I had a look at the list, seriously, if anyone under the age of 25 dont know how to type out words or write a letter, they should go back to highschool. The jobs Centrelink offer, along with the training they give are fucking shocking. I was asked if was going to look for a job when i applied for Youth Allowance, apart from the fact im still studying and an independent student, i told them i could find a better job in the military and they wont ask for a reason as to why i left home.

So do the same course at a TAFE that isn't local.

There's your differential.

That doesnt make sense, your telling him to do a TAFE course that it isnt local, so he can get a job 500 people are training for in his local area.

 

[Graney]

So they will enroll in pointless courses

Ideally the courses wouldn't be pointless. They would be of a flexibility and quality to offer something to anyone.

In reality, they probably will be.

Unskilled young people don't need to be coerced into getting more education.

Mabye some young people do need coercion. If after IR laws have been liberalised, there are no jobs available, then the best thing for a person to be doing is to be meaningfully upskilling.

It does beg the question again as to why, if this is good policy, it should not be applied to ALL unemployed, young and old.

They need IR laws that give employers an incentive to hire them. Turns out guarantees of high pay and great working conditions don't help you if you can't get a job.

You're not wrong.

 

[44Ronin]

Ideally the courses wouldn't be pointless.

Retail traineeship?

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

(Give evidence of looking for) work/study or don't get free money. Seems simple enough?

 

[SnowFox]

(Give evidence of looking for) work/study or don't get free money. Seems simple enough?

They are "supposed" to show that every fortnights

 

[SashatheMan]

I hardly what I said is an elitest attitude.
It's fucking logic. you have 500 people at the local tafe doing the same course because they lost their job - it'll hardly differentiate you from the rest of the pack

She is just lazy