Originally posted by Snapwizard
Whats other general statistics could you get?? Just fascinated, thats all
Raw performance band cut-offs... raw means and standard deviations... possibly graphs showing the distributions of marks... and so on. Obtaining data relating to scaled marks is a bit more difficult; universities are exempted from the operation of the FOI Act.
Originally posted by Snapwizard
and what happened at Mt Druitt~~ Guess really shocking results
In that year and at that school, all students scored UAIs below 50, and the Daily Telegraph ran a defamatory front-page story entitled "THE CLASS WE FAILED". There's been a lockdown on information ever since then.
Originally posted by Snapwizard
if so shouldnt the kids entering highschool know the stantard of outcome that his/her HS provides to give him/her the best opportunity to do well ?? I'm no lawyer like you bro what equality seems lost if you unknowingling went to a really bad school causing you to be significantly disadvanatged when applying to study at uni or going to serach for a job!!
Well... looking at the UAIs of the students of a particular school isn't necessarily the best way to evaluate that school. The UAI is only designed to predict success in the first year of tertiary study - nothing else. If you, for example, looked at the UAIs of Ruse students, you'd see that the median UAI is roughly 99. Does this mean that Ruse is an incredibly good school, or simply that incredibly good students attend Ruse? You can't know. There are better measures of school performance. If you're really interested, research the "value-added" measure.
Originally posted by Toodulu
the first one would be the exam raw mark, how about the 2nd? is that our hsc mark?
The second mark is the mark which the Board reports as your examination mark, aligned with course standards.
Originally posted by Toodulu
are there any other information we could ask for on that form?
Well... you're able to
ask for anything.
But there's no guarantee you'll get it. There are no precedents supporting the release of other types of information (yet). The Board's usual approach to novel requests seems to always be (from my experience) an initial outright rejection. You may have to pursue the request for some time.
Originally posted by Toodulu
also, is there any point in me requesting for a reduction in fees?
You can try. I didn't think it was worth the effort. I have no knowledge of what you would need to establish in order to successfully have the fee reduced. You'd most likely need to show that you're impecunious in some way, and would be deprived of some sort of necessity of life if you were to fork out the dough.
Originally posted by Toodulu
would it be possible to get my papers back or will i only get a piece of paper telling me the marks? do you know whether i could specify that i want all of my individual marks for eng modules or is that unreasonable?
Again, there's nothing preventing you from making the request. I doubt the Board would still have physical copies of your papers - I vaguely recall them being required to hold them for three months... and I don't see too much reason for them to keep the papers beyond that period.
I'd be very interested to see whether you're able to obtain a breakdown of your marks on a per-module basis. Such a request would involve additional issues... you could potentially correlate your mark for a particular question with your answer for that question, and dispute how the question was marked... which is almost an attack on an exam marker. The Board currently doesn't provide any facilities for students to have reviews of their examination marks conducted. Principals are allowed to appeal anomalous marks, but not students. Students are limited to 'clerical rechecks', which simply ensure that marks have been transferred from paper to computer correctly, and have been added up correctly, and so on. You would likely be required to satisfactorily address such issues when pursuing your request.
Perhaps you could ask for both the total mark and a breakdown of marks for each course, so that, even if the breakdown is refused, you still receive your total marks.
As a sidenote... I believe schools receive breakdowns of the marks of their students on a per-module basis, via a statistical results analysis package. I don't think they receive raw marks, though. Uncertain on this point.
