Australian Politics (7 Viewers)

[JINOUGA]

Good. Worst Labor Premier in Australian post war history.

what about nathan rees?

 

[Lolsmith]

What kind of question is that?

She was Premier for less than 18 months, how can she be in any way worse than the others in such a short time

 

[JINOUGA]

Imo she was pretty much given a sinking ship, there was not much she could really do

 

[Rafy]

You know the ALP are in deep trouble when they can't keep members in the inner west.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opi...loses-senators-alp-branch-20120627-210yq.html

 

[Rafy]

http://theconversation.edu.au/bring...lains-means-a-surrender-to-the-executive-7926

Last week the High Court essentially affirmed the supremacy of the legislature over the executive. Yesterday parliament surrendered to the executive and gave the power back.

 

[Jack the Red]

Hey, I'm new to these forums. Are there many treacherous pinko lefty bastards round here? Or am I all alone?

Cheers
Jack.

 

[Graney]

Hey, I'm new to these forums. Are there many treacherous pinko lefty bastards round here? Or am I all alone?

Cheers
Jack.

No, everyone here loves freedom now

Why do you hate freedom?

 

[Lolsmith]

I dislike her for her role in the internal dynamics of the Labor party. It's pretty much unanimously agreed that Labor's ties to the Executive branches of the ACTU is a problem. What we saw in the the case of NSW Labor was an increasing degree of autonomy from Sussex Street on the back of Carr's political success. This continued under Iemma, a succession which Carr himself was instrumental in arranging. Eric Roozendale, Joe Tripdoi etc wanted Carl Scully, Iemma's election as leader was a spectacular victory over the factional branches. As was widely the reported they were eventually successful in tearing down Iemma but did not get their way as a hasty patched alliance of lefties and disgruntled members of the own guard thwarted Sussex streets attempts to put one of their own in.

The behaviour of Sussex street during Rees' premiership was absolutely disgusting, the backgrounding against Rees, the timely leaks of scandals was enough to make Rudd appear like a loyal Gillard backer and Kenneally was engrossed in it all, working with Roozendale, Sartor and Della Bosca to wrest power back into the hands of Sussex st party machine. Which she did, returning extraordinary influence over pre-selection, policy and cabinet appointments to the conveners of the Right faction and the NSW branch of the AWU. Now NSW's opposition is essentially organized and controlled by a broken, outdated institution rife with nepotism and as Premier she played an instrumental role in bringing this about.

And don't say at least she got rid of Tripodi (or kept him out after Rees was sacked). Tripodi wasn't sacked because of a show of courage by Rees or Kenneally, and Rees wasn't rolled because of the machinations of Tripodi. Tripodi lost his grip on the factional numbers, he was outmaneuvered by other machine men who were ruthless once they got an edge over him.

Fair enough. I understand your position on all that now, but I don't understand why all of these actions outside of her Premiership make her a bad Premier.

 

[Jack the Red]

No, everyone here loves freedom now

Why do you hate freedom?

Just give me all of your freedoms and we can distribute them equally. You can trust me.

 

[funkshen]

that whole article makes me want to kill myself. i don't get it. is he implying that price controls, salary caps, and a sales tax on overseas goods are "orthodox economics"? is he implying that mainstream economics is orthodox economics? and almost everything he mentioned was populist bullshit. i think he has confused 'economics' with 'government economic policymaking' with has little to do with economics as a corpus of knowledge or academic discipline.

 

[funkshen]

pleasure to be of service m'lady

no but seriously the greens would run this country into the ground

 

[Garygaz]

dey care so much about whales

but domestic house cats have caused 30 birds to go extinct?

where is the justice?

 

[funkshen]

greens don't care about the real issues.

 

[Lolsmith]

that whole article makes me want to kill myself. i don't get it. is he implying that price controls, salary caps, and a sales tax on overseas goods are "orthodox economics"? is he implying that mainstream economics is orthodox economics? and almost everything he mentioned was populist bullshit. i think he has confused 'economics' with 'government economic policymaking' with has little to do with economics as a corpus of knowledge or academic discipline.

the economics of the 30's in the 21st century

 

[Lolsmith]

dey care so much about whales

but domestic house cats have caused 30 birds to go extinct?

where is the justice?

LEAVE THE KITTIES ALoNE YOU MONSTER

 

[funkshen]

higher taxes, harmonious society

 

[funkshen]

why teach kids climate science in the first place

 

[Lolsmith]

The LNP has passed a motion opposing the teaching of climate science in schools. Just a taste of the sort of radical, ideological nonsense Australian can expect if it was to elect Tony Abbott as Prime Minister.

have you seen the syllabus for Senior School Economics?

 

[Lolsmith]

Why the hell would I do that?

To complain more about what you were just complaining about

 

[funkshen]

Oh be quiet.

i don't recall learning about climate science in high school. just wondering what the point is. is it a module in 6th stage chemistry or something?

To complain more about what you were just complaining about

whats in the syllabus br8