Australian flag BANNED!!! (1 Viewer)

[breaking]

....from sydney BDO this year as organisers fear it will incite racial tensions.


discuss.

 

[Rafy]

Flag branded symbol of racism
Ban insults our flag - PM
Ban won't end racism (DT Editorial)

THE Australian flag has been banned from this year's Big Day Out in Sydney after organisers branded it a "gang colour" and symbol of hate.

The Daily Telegraph has learned organisers of the Aussie rock festival at Homebush will confiscate any flag or bandana bearing the national symbol at the gate.

Labelling Sydney a hot bed of racism, producers of the Sydney Showground event said it will be the only city in the nationwide event to be subject to the draconian action.

Promoters have already moved the event from the traditional Australia Day gig to a day earlier to avoid nationalistic overtones.

Spooked by last year's event, which came only weeks after the Cronulla riots, organisers will outlaw flags being brandished as a "gang colour".

Prime Minister John Howard said the Big Day Out should be cancelled unless organisers reversed their decision to ban the flag. Big Day Out patrons were intimidated and harassed at the Sydney event on Australia Day 2006 by bigoted fans brandishing flags and demanding people pledge their allegiance. [...]

 

[Serius]

Wow... i wouldnt be surprised if someone killed him for doing that. I dont think ive ever heard of something like this happening, what a fucking joke. Big day out should be boycotted until they get rid of that rule.

 

[PoliticalExile]

The problem with Australian forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, or any other nation for military purposes, is that it can create refugees, who have strong political feelings towards Australia.

If we don't want people not liking our flag it would be wise to not go into these countries at the behest of America in the first place. The Australian military should only be for defending Australia and Australian embassies, consulates and some shipping which is publicly owned.

The more overseas Australian military involvement, for whatever reasons, will produce refugees which do not like Australia.

Australia should consider rearranging it's United Nations contributions in a way in which the payments are at a far distant future date. Technically that would not be a separation from the UN, but it would significantly reduce Australia's globalist related problems with regards to people not liking the Australian flag.

We need to pull back Australian overseas globalist military and start building up Australia. Let's begin to put Australia first.

 

[Legham]

That's complete BS :O I agree, ban the BDO before banning our flag! And only days away from Australia day.. They should be encouraging people to wave our flag.. like in america how so many of the houses have the american flag flying all year round!

 

[withoutaface]

Hahahaha it's been banned from the NUS floor for years. All flags except the Aboriginal and Palestinian ones are :S

 

[Aryanbeauty]

The problem with Australian forces in Afghanistan, Iraq, or any other nation for military purposes, is that it can create refugees, who have strong political feelings towards Australia.

If we don't want people not liking our flag it would be wise to not go into these countries at the behest of America in the first place. The Australian military should only be for defending Australia and Australian embassies, consulates and some shipping which is publicly owned.

The more overseas Australian military involvement, for whatever reasons, will produce refugees which do not like Australia.

Australia should consider rearranging it's United Nations contributions in a way in which the payments are at a far distant future date. Technically that would not be a separation from the UN, but it would significantly reduce Australia's globalist related problems with regards to people not liking the Australian flag.

We need to pull back Australian overseas globalist military and start building up Australia. Let's begin to put Australia first.

Quoted for absolute stupidity.

It has nothing to do with refugee disliking austrlian flag, it has to do with racist people abusing the flag for their own twisted agenda and intimidating other people.

If refugee does not like Australia or australian flag for australian involvement in international arena, they can seek refuge to 100's of countries who never contributed a dime to international cause.

America involved in almost all world affairs and conflict and it have more refugee and immigrants than any other country in the world and every minority proudly fly american flag, including millions of illegal mexican migrant who protested against law criminalizing their mere presence in the USA, are proudly flying american flag from the street of LA to NY to Dallas and Miami.

Looking at the stupidity and ridiculousness of the above post it seems like it comes from HOTSHOT.

 

[Affinity]

Ridiculous

oh by the way, would the nazi flag be allowed?

Johnny got it right once..

 

[banco55]

What political correct BS. The organisers are a disgrace for even requesting that people not bring flags. I hope everyone shows up with a flag just to make a point to these morons.

 

[banco55]

They are officially requesting that flags not be bought to the BDO though:"With all this in mind and the aim to create a happy, peaceful MUSICAL event, organisers would like to request that fans please leave their flags at home."

 

[Stott Despoja]

Though I do not agree with an outright ban, I think that the BDO's current position is fair. The flag, much like any other symbol or entity, can be and is abused, and anyone who believes that this has not been particularly true of late is kidding themselves. However, the events of this morning are now likely to fuel that which the BDO's organisers are trying to avoid, that being drunk young foolish if not idiotic men making petty nationalistic statements that are anti-social in nature. I hope that that is not the case, because the Big Day Out is meant to be a festival that everyone should be able to enjoy.

 

[dagwoman]

I don't see why it's that big a deal. If they think it'll reduce violence, being the day before Australia day, where there'll be a large group of drunk people, I think they should do it. People take this crap far too seriously. The obsession with the flag and respecting it so excessively just seems nationalistic to me. It's not like it's an event honouring Australia, where an Australian flag would be relevant. It's a music festival. Lighten up.

 

[frog12986]

I feel that they should ban persons who have dreadlocks or who have failed to apply deodorant to their person as a public health requirement :rofl:

Once again we have a situation whereby organisers implement policies based on the actions of a minority. If they take it upon themselves to ban the Australian flag, then every other type of flag should also be banned. Are these the same left wing proponents who defend the words of people such as the Sheikh via freedom of speech? So they believe in freedom of speech, yet do not allow one to convey their nationalistic tendencies? Oh how I love the hypocrisy of the left..

 

[banco55]

I like the emerging consensus that overt displays of patriotism (or nationalism) is somehow anti-social. I mean drunken people calling out "Aussie, oy, oy" might be viewed as boorish or undignified by the chardonnay socialists but to claim that it is "anti-social" is a strecth.

 

[frog12986]

I don't see why it's that big a deal. If they think it'll reduce violence, being the day before Australia day, where there'll be a large group of drunk people, I think they should do it. People take this crap far too seriously. The obsession with the flag and respecting it so excessively just seems nationalistic to me. It's not like it's an event honouring Australia, where an Australian flag would be relevant. It's a music festival. Lighten up.

Well it seems to me that the problem is not the Australian flag but rather the excessive consumption of alcohol... flag or no flag, confine a large group of inebriated persons in a small area and you are asking for problems.

 

[PoliticalExile]

BDO's statement:

"... an increased incidence of flags brandished aggressively and this has led to increased tension."

The tension is being caused by somebody with a problem to Australia and the Australian flag.

I would suggest to BDO that they cool things down and become more liberal and just allow people to wear and bring what they choose.

It's people who create tension, who have issues with Australia and the flag that are the trouble makers, not those with love. Love for their people and country as represented by the Australian flag.

Some people love and some people hate. BDO needs to become more liberal and allow people to express themselves, it's a creative event after all.

 

[Dongle]

Personally I don't really care, but realistically, flags will always cause nationalistic sentiment no matter how good crowds are behaved. And in my experience, flags have always been a medium to express arrogance and excessive patriotism instead of all those noble values flag-wearing proponents use as an excuse to justify their right-wing tendencies.

BTW, Israel shouldn't exist. Bloody Zionists.

 

[Stott Despoja]

I like the emerging consensus that overt displays of patriotism (or nationalism) is somehow anti-social. I mean drunken people calling out "Aussie, oy, oy" might be viewed as boorish or undignified by the chardonnay socialists but to claim that it is "anti-social" is a strecth.

It would be a stretch if such people were referring to the above call. I must admit that I do consider the "Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi Oi" chant to be mind-numingly dull and somewhat cringeworthy when it's chanted by a group of drunks, but by anti-social I and others are clearly referring to more overt displays that upset and disgust others who are merely out to enjoy the day. Think rampant and invasive chest-beating and beer-swilling if you're stuck and unable to realise what it is that the chardonnay socialists are talking about.

Now for something completely different.

Well it seems to me that the problem is not the Australian flag but rather the excessive consumption of alcohol... flag or no flag, confine a large group of inebriated persons in a small area and you are asking for problems.

I consider the above to be true. The problem is the excessive consumption of alcohol by anti-social youths, not the flag. However, given the mentality of the mob and that the flag is a both a respected and a readily abused symbol, it's easy to see why the organisers would want to discourage misguided young men from abusing something should stand for much more than a petty need to express just how 'patriotic' such young men happen to be.

 

[PoliticalExile]

And in my experience, flags have always been a medium to express arrogance and excessive patriotism instead of all those noble values flag-wearing proponents use as an excuse to justify their right-wing tendencies.

Yes, but left-wing tendencies have harmed more people. 100 million killed by communism.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

The left-wing is no different from the right-wing in terms of being humane. The liberal center and a localized community is more humane than Globalist enforcement and oppression.

Love for your people is a good thing. Having the Australian flag in Iraq and Afghanistan and oppressing those people is hatred. Having the Australian flag at home is love.

Globalism kills more people, 650,000 in Iraq so far, Globalism is nationalism extended. Nationalism, from and by the people, and not left-wing ultra-fascist authorities such as Lenin with the concentration camp gulags, but by the individual people, is love.

BDO is expressing hate, hate towards the Australian people who love their people.
I think the BDO needs to apologise and stop oppressing people's love.

 

[Legham]

If there was people planning on bringing a flag to BDO as gang colours, then them discouraging it won't make a difference to those kind of people..