Australia tries to stem fallout from attacks on Indian students (1 Viewer)

[Serius]

Sydney, Australia - Recent demonstrations by thousands of Indian students in Melbourne and Sydney to protest violent attacks on them have threatened the future of one of the country's biggest earners – the education industry.

The attacks, which included physical assaults as well as a gasoline bomb, have roiled the Indian community here and in India. And they have raised questions about racial attitudes in a country that had a "white Australia policy" through much of the 20th century.

Australia's education industry has boomed in recent years to become the country's third-largest export earner behind coal and iron ore, generating about $12 billion in revenue in 2008.

Indian students – as well as Chinese – have played a big role in that growth. Their numbers rose 54 percent last year, and have doubled in the past three years. Second only to the ranks of Chinese students, Indians now account for more than 80,000 of the 415,000 foreigners studying here. More than half are based in the state of Victoria, according to a study by Access Economics, an analysis firm.

The police have said the first two cases were more a matter of opportunism and plain robbery. But victims say the motive was racist, pointing to racial epithets hurled at them.

Amit Menghani, president of FISA, the Federation of Indian Students in Australia, says that the severity of the attacks brought needed attention to a hidden problem.

"[Such abuse has] increased in the last four or five years," he says. "It was only because [one of these cases] was got hold of by the Indian media that all this has now gained such a high profile."

Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd rushed to reassure his Indian counterpart, Manmohan Singh, that the matter would be dealt with and that Australia was still a safe place for foreign students.

With its stated national goals of multiculturalism, as well as its easygoing lifestyle, Australia now attracts thousands of people from the Asia Pacific region.

But racial tensions have flared periodically. Four years ago, riots erupted when mobs of white youths rampaged through Sydney's beach suburb of Cronulla, beating up young men of Middle Eastern appearance.

And David Penberthy, a former editor of the Sydney Daily Telegraph, wrote in a column that "addressing Australia's casual racism would require a total change in our national psyche."

But some Indians who have lived in Australia without incident believe that foreign Indian students often lack a general awareness of their surroundings and may contribute to tensions.

Glenn Withers, the chief executive of Universities Australia, which includes 38 universities, says that many of the problems were occurring for students studying at smaller institutions.

"About 30 percent of foreign students attend main universities.... At [those, like Monash or Melbourne University], we have 24-hour security, we have buses take students back and forth from late-night library studying ... plus we have guards everywhere," he says. "But the smaller places don't."

According to Mr. Withers, who says the latest incidents have sparked reports of a dropoff in inquiries from India, about 25 percent of university enrollments are foreign students, while 10 to 15 percent of vocational students also come from overseas.

Isaac Balbin, a professor at the Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, says that while some of the smaller institutes were credible, others were "shopfronts."

"The real problem is the fly-by-night agents sending students to cheap institutions," he says, "where they are not explaining that to the parents or the children and are only there to make a quick buck."

This is just becoming ridiculous. Why do the media always have to fuck everything up? 2 attacks with racial words thrown around whilst the media have been making a big beat up about it isnt a racial problem.

Also, wtf is this shit about Cronulla? This Janaki Kremmer is a complete hack. Talk about a total misrepresentation of the facts. This is a perfect example of the media taking what happened, and trying to destroy the reputation of our country.

More like, a bunch of criminal middle eastern gangs decided to beat up some lifeguards and rape some white women, in response, the community had a show of solidarity on local beaches that the police reacted violently to before anything happened. Things escalated, and some arabs who were actually taunting the crowd and wanting to fight got beat up, half a dozen people were arrested and another half dozen got punched a few times, no injuries and no deaths....and thats a riot? I remember some American news laughing about how we called that a riot when nothing was even looted or set on fire, a real riot is one that encompasses a whole city, hundreds of shops get looted and set on fire, hundreds of people are injured or killed and the army is called in.

Later that night, the "peace loving, victimised middle eastern community" responded by getting in their fully sick cars and driving to Cronulla where they stabbed to death a few people, raped some white women, bashed a few dozen more and destroyed about a hundred cars. That should have been the real story, but instead our freedom loving government decided to suppress that news.

Its true that we have racial tension, thats always going to be the case in a multi-cultural mixing pot full of different social expectations and even different languages, there is always going to be misinterpretations and problems. The real reason Indian students are being attacked is because they carry around expensive stuff in bad neighbourhoods and they are known for not fighting back. If Australian students acted as ignorant and street dumb as these fools did they would get mugged often too. The strangest part of this is the "Indian community reaction" and also the international reaction. Everybody likes to feel like they are a victim, if you throw racial reasons around it gives you a bigger sense of entitlement. Like India can talk anyway, they dont just have racial problems, they have whole class and segregation problems.

I am not saying that Australia isnt racist, because its my beleif we are alot worse than we think we are, but in this case the media have totally lost the plot, the attacks arent racially motivated, they have nothing to do with race, correlation does not imply causation. Just because more Indian students that whites are being attacked does not mean the reason is race, the real reason is greed and crime.

 

[SAVAK]

The Jews control the media.

 

[Sprangler]

This is just becoming ridiculous. Why do the media always have to fuck everything up? 2 attacks with racial words thrown around whilst the media have been making a big beat up about it isnt a racial problem.

Also, wtf is this shit about Cronulla? This Janaki Kremmer is a complete hack. Talk about a total misrepresentation of the facts. This is a perfect example of the media taking what happened, and trying to destroy the reputation of our country.

More like, a bunch of criminal middle eastern gangs decided to beat up some lifeguards and rape some white women, in response, the community had a show of solidarity on local beaches that the police reacted violently to before anything happened. Things escalated, and some arabs who were actually taunting the crowd and wanting to fight got beat up, half a dozen people were arrested and another half dozen got punched a few times, no injuries and no deaths....and thats a riot? I remember some American news laughing about how we called that a riot when nothing was even looted or set on fire, a real riot is one that encompasses a whole city, hundreds of shops get looted and set on fire, hundreds of people are injured or killed and the army is called in.

Later that night, the "peace loving, victimised middle eastern community" responded by getting in their fully sick cars and driving to Cronulla where they stabbed to death a few people, raped some white women, bashed a few dozen more and destroyed about a hundred cars. That should have been the real story, but instead our freedom loving government decided to suppress that news.

Its true that we have racial tension, thats always going to be the case in a multi-cultural mixing pot full of different social expectations and even different languages, there is always going to be misinterpretations and problems. The real reason Indian students are being attacked is because they carry around expensive stuff in bad neighbourhoods and they are known for not fighting back. If Australian students acted as ignorant and street dumb as these fools did they would get mugged often too. The strangest part of this is the "Indian community reaction" and also the international reaction. Everybody likes to feel like they are a victim, if you throw racial reasons around it gives you a bigger sense of entitlement. Like India can talk anyway, they dont just have racial problems, they have whole class and segregation problems.

I am not saying that Australia isnt racist, because its my beleif we are alot worse than we think we are, but in this case the media have totally lost the plot, the attacks arent racially motivated, they have nothing to do with race, correlation does not imply causation. Just because more Indian students that whites are being attacked does not mean the reason is race, the real reason is greed and crime.

You pretty much just echoed what's been said in the other thread.

The Jews control the media.

Nice contribution.

 

[SnowFox]

This is just becoming ridiculous. Why do the media always have to fuck everything up? 2 attacks with racial words thrown around whilst the media have been making a big beat up about it isnt a racial problem.

Also, wtf is this shit about Cronulla? This Janaki Kremmer is a complete hack. Talk about a total misrepresentation of the facts. This is a perfect example of the media taking what happened, and trying to destroy the reputation of our country.

More like, a bunch of criminal middle eastern gangs decided to beat up some lifeguards and rape some white women, in response, the community had a show of solidarity on local beaches that the police reacted violently to before anything happened. Things escalated, and some arabs who were actually taunting the crowd and wanting to fight got beat up, half a dozen people were arrested and another half dozen got punched a few times, no injuries and no deaths....and thats a riot? I remember some American news laughing about how we called that a riot when nothing was even looted or set on fire, a real riot is one that encompasses a whole city, hundreds of shops get looted and set on fire, hundreds of people are injured or killed and the army is called in.

Later that night, the "peace loving, victimised middle eastern community" responded by getting in their fully sick cars and driving to Cronulla where they stabbed to death a few people, raped some white women, bashed a few dozen more and destroyed about a hundred cars. That should have been the real story, but instead our freedom loving government decided to suppress that news.

Its true that we have racial tension, thats always going to be the case in a multi-cultural mixing pot full of different social expectations and even different languages, there is always going to be misinterpretations and problems. The real reason Indian students are being attacked is because they carry around expensive stuff in bad neighbourhoods and they are known for not fighting back. If Australian students acted as ignorant and street dumb as these fools did they would get mugged often too. The strangest part of this is the "Indian community reaction" and also the international reaction. Everybody likes to feel like they are a victim, if you throw racial reasons around it gives you a bigger sense of entitlement. Like India can talk anyway, they dont just have racial problems, they have whole class and segregation problems.

I am not saying that Australia isnt racist, because its my beleif we are alot worse than we think we are, but in this case the media have totally lost the plot, the attacks arent racially motivated, they have nothing to do with race, correlation does not imply causation. Just because more Indian students that whites are being attacked does not mean the reason is race, the real reason is greed and crime.

If you were female and i wasnt in a committed relationship, i think i might kiss you for this post, but alas you will have to settle for +rep.

 

[Crestwood's_G]

niggers run the media...well the rap scene at least