Anyone Politically Involved (4 Viewers)

[erawamai]

In the English language erawamai, that squiggly little sign that looks like this "?" is called a question mark. It is used to show someone that the sentence is a...QUESTION! Leading on from that, what I interpreted from that question mark was "Is he an ALP supporter"?

As I said It was a bad post. You misunderstood it. Partly my fault forgetting the internet people take everything literally. I wouldn't be bothered clarifying. It was late. You proclaimed victory!!!! and then you decided to jump around all morning and rub it into my face like you had several wet dreams over it last night.

In future, it would be wise not to make vague, unclear statements like that, if you want to make your point, ok.

ay ay captain.

And could you show me one of the quotes which shows you knew he was an ALP supporter?

SURE!

I think it was pretty clear that he was an ALP supporter. The only quote which was vague was my last one. But I thought it was pretty clear throughout the whole thread based on my line of questioning. I stated that the reason for me asking such questions was that I wanted to know the view of a fellow ALP supporter. Shown below...

Well I'd want to know if a fellow ALP supporter would want to fight in the resistance in Iraq

...which was posted before the last vague quote of mine which I was too tired to clarify for you. I thought it was safe to assume that everyone had picked up that my I was questioning him because he was an ALP supporter and so was I and I wanted to know what he thought...

I think the use of 'fellow ALP supporter' clearly illustrates that I knew he was an ALP supporter

More That show that he is an ALP supporter and that i knew

I havn't joined Young Labor, but I think I will to root out the bizarre sorts we seem to attract, such as Z Nizzle.

I will work my way through the ranks faster than you can say "NUNU"

In fact I even acknowledge that s nizzle is a member of the ALP by responding to his above post by suggesting that his opinions are not good for the ALP.

Yes thats right. I'm sure you would get elected by the Australian parliament when you support resistance which involves shooting and attempting to kill Australian soldiers. That would go down a treat with the Australian electorate.

Again I refer to s Nizzle when responding to a post of Walrusbear in relation to people not wanting to join the ALP because of the views of z Nizzle

labor needs direction

and sitting back won't change anything

I don't think it helps labor when they have members who get very grey when asked whether they support Australian troops and or terrorism

Again I refer to s nizzle within the ALP...below.

The point is that you cannot ever expect to win an election if people inside your party want to side with minority views that people of the mainstream find threatening. Not minority interests like gay rights. People can live with that. They may NOT like it but the can live with it.

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As for the issue of the Iraq war and its legality and whether it is a terrorist act

I think you will find I never disputed in any thread that the initial invasion of Iraq could be construed as a terrorist act. What I stated was that the war in iraq is legal under international law as it had been approved by the UN. I made no comment on whether the inititial invasion was a terrorist act or not. I have clarified in this thread that the initial invasion of Iraq can be construed as a terrorist Act.

 

[erawamai]

Peace ?

Well not sure if there is a need to call for peace. But I think everything has been worked out now. I take back the comment about you not being able to achieve a uai of 90.

 

[Z_Nizzle]

Well not sure if there is a need to call for peace. But I think everything has been worked out now. I take back the comment about you not being able to achieve a uai of 90.

awwww.......look at u two luv birds

 

[leetom]

s nizzle, you have no future in the ALP. Not for as long you continue to display that banner in your sig, which suggests only a South-East Asian Islamic Mega-State. A pipedream, mind you. There's a reason why your sort rely on terrorism to express your political views, it's because you are apart of such a detested minority that you would be totally devoured in any show of democracy.

 

[Z_Nizzle]

s nizzle, you have no future in the ALP. Not for as long you continue to display that banner in your sig, which suggests only a South-East Asian Islamic Mega-State. A pipedream, mind you. There's a reason why your sort rely on terrorism to express your political views, it's because you are apart of such a detested minority that you would be totally devoured in any show of democracy.

lol...hokay.

 

[Z_Nizzle]

s nizzle, you have no future in the ALP.

I sense frustration .

 

[breaking]

lol...hokay.

way to back yourself up there, chump.

 

[leetom]

I sense frustration .

I sense hatred of a secular Australia. Putting you at odds with a core Labor value.

 

[Z_Nizzle]

I sense hatred of a secular Australia.

I am perfectly fine with a secular Australia as long as you don't secularize Islam i have no problems.

 

[breaking]

I am perfectly fine with a secular Australia

so why the sig?

 

[Comrade nathan]

Zahid I'd suggest you'd be more at home in the Socialist Alliance or the CPA.

Yes and nice try. The CPA is a materialist based party, why would we support a religious extremist?

 

[Generator]

Why I just had to resign from the Labor Party

 

[loquasagacious]

Old left feeling alienated by new left...... largely.

Though some good points about the lack of differentiation.

Seems the in thing this season is polemics attacking your political party.....

 

[leetom]

Throwing her hands up and giving up won't achieve much. The bit on her father though, was moving.

Do you think Labor should make more of its wartime success? A bit of nostalgia?

 

[erawamai]

Do you think Labor should make more of its wartime success? A bit of nostalgia?

Days gone by. The ALP doesn't always call back to people like Chiffley because they supported the White Australian Policy.

 

[leetom]

Days gone by. The ALP doesn't always call back to people like Chiffley because they supported the White Australian Policy.

I'm sure we can overlook that. The Libs revere Menzies.

Also, Denise Allen condemns Federal and State Labor for matching the PM's counter-terrorism measures. Surely she realises that, despite how draconian the new laws may be, to oppose them entirely would be political insanity.

Imagine if a terrorist attack actually takes place in Australia, and there was evidence to suggest that Howard's laws could have gone some way to preventing the attack. And imagine if Labor opposed those laws. The ALP would be finished. The best we could do to ensure a return to social liberty such as that enjoyed prior to the introduciton of these laws was argue for the sunset clause, and we got that.

 

[erawamai]

I'm sure we can overlook that. The Libs revere Menzies.

I think it is only John Howard who loves Menzies. Other than both being Liberal leaders there is very little in common with Menzies and Howard. You can always seek out idiotic young Liberals and such when they try and compare Howard with Menzies. Totally and uttery different.

Imagine if a terrorist attack actually takes place in Australia, and there was evidence to suggest that Howard's laws could have gone some way to preventing the attack. And imagine if Labor opposed those laws. The ALP would be finished. The best we could do to ensure a return to social liberty such as that enjoyed prior to the introduciton of these laws was argue for the sunset clause, and we got that.

The ALP can only argue for sunsets clauses. Perhaps the ALP could go one better and introduce stronger Terror laws.

 

[loquasagacious]

I think a key part of Labor's problem lie in it resting on past achievement. The nation has moved beyond that and Labor has not kept up, so now they are left playing 'me-to' to the libs. I would love to see a re-invigorated Federal Labor proposing an alternate way foreward.........

 

[walrusbear]

what direction do people think Labor should take, then??

addymac's last post indicated that perhaps the social approach is no longer in vogue - and that australia has moved on (views everything through an economic lens??)

moving further to the 'right' and adopting policies similar to the Liberal party has also been criticised for being too similar.

what should the Labor party be?

 

[erawamai]

what direction do people think Labor should take, then??

addymac's last post indicated that perhaps the social approach is no longer in vogue - and that australia has moved on (views everything through an economic lens??)

moving further to the 'right' and adopting policies similar to the Liberal party has also been criticised for being too similar.

what should the Labor party be?

There is even a question as to whether the Australian public is even interesting in having a 2nd party.