Adam and Eve or Evolution? (3 Viewers)

[martin123]

Repeat, go back to school.

If that's too difficult, read these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils



And by the way, guys, we don't just rely on fossils. The genetic evidence is also overwhelming.

lol genetic evidence doesnt tell you were it came from, you guys just "assume" it. by the way thats what we learnt in biology lol and i am in school for your information hahah

 

[chaldoking]

How do new variations arise within a population?

 

[martin123]

micro eveolution is just variation soo that isnt even evoloution because it happens in the genes, not from the environment eg: all budgies were green at first then different colours started appearing in the birds. That doesnt mean its eveoloution, the same bird come out looking the same,doesnt turn into a cockatoo or a gallah, its a budgie. The colours come from the genes, and we dont see them in the wild because different coloured birds fall prey to predators. Only green budgies have a good survival rate.

 

[chaldoking]

How did all the chemical elements form?
Where did energy come from?
Who created the "laws of science?"

 

[martin123]

How did all the chemical elements form?
Where did energy come from?
Who created the "laws of science?"

God created them

 

[chaldoking]

Can you give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome?

 

[tommykins]

回复: Re: Adam and Eve or Evolution?

Negative proof fallacy has been used so many times, especially by chaldoking. :S

 

[KFunk]

The creation of the universe is a concept of infinity that no amount of research or logic can answer.

If you assume this you not only beg the question, but also make your own position of theism more shakey (reducing it to faith, versus critical reasoning).

 

[dolbinau]

micro eveolution is just variation soo that isnt even evoloution because it happens in the genes, not from the environment eg: all budgies were green at first then different colours started appearing in the birds. That doesnt mean its eveoloution, the same bird come out looking the same,doesnt turn into a cockatoo or a gallah, its a budgie. The colours come from the genes, and we dont see them in the wild because different coloured birds fall prey to predators. Only green budgies have a good survival rate.

Year 12 Biology>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic_resistance>From the environment.

 

[badquinton304]

brother evolution is the devils work, <b>dinosaurs lived amongst humans in the begining because they werent a threat. Everything ate plants,</b> when adam sinned then death came into the world and we changed our diets and things began to die. Everyone thinks dinosaurs were belived to be millins off years ago. thats because we arent seeing them in this preasent day. so it seem to us that dinosaurs couldnt have lived amongst us, but in the bible mentions dinosaurs. But they dont call them that name because the word dinosaur wasnt made up until 1841, they were called dragons, the bible mention many dragons because that was there name back then.

That explains why dinosaurs with sharp teeth, big jaws and huge claws existed to hunt down the plants that resisted, why would you need all of that to kill a plant. Your argument lacks basic logic.

 

[squeenie]

Define Evolution.

Instead of asking everyone else to define evolution, why don't you go find out for yourself? Its not that hard. And you still haven't answered me:

Chaldoking, if you really are Catholic, then why do you reject the evolution theory? Isn't there a general consensus within the Catholic community that evolution should be accepted?

And yes, I know there are some parts of it they're unsure of, but its better than rejecting it entirely, or worse, ignoring it.

 

[squeenie]

How did all the chemical elements form?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_nucleosynthesis

Where did energy come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy#Energy_in_various_contexts_since_the_beginning_of_the_universe

Who created the "laws of science?"

The 'laws of science' are explanations for what we have observed in nature and the universe through experiments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

It won't kill you to do a bit of research, you know.

 

[Will Shakespear]

Can you give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome?

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...make-major-evolutionary-shift-in-the-lab.html

 

[staticsiscool]

hahahahahahaahahaahahahahahhahahahaha oh fuck, easily the funniest thread on bos. lol im serioulsy in tears from laughing. fuck yeah evolution is just a theory. just like circuit theory, extreme value theory and systems theory. look up the definition of a scientific theory ffs.

"In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

Also we need to stop dropping to their level, gravity is a law not a theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

"In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. It originates from or is supported by rigorous observations in the natural world, or by experimental evidence (see scientific method). In this sense, a theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations, and is predictive, logical, and testable. In principle, scientific theories are always tentative, and subject to corrections, inclusion in a yet wider theory, or succession. Commonly, many more specific hypotheses may be logically bound together by just one or two theories. As a rule for use of the term, theories tend to deal with much broader sets of universals than do hypotheses, which ordinarily deal with much more specific sets of phenomena or specific applications of a theory."

"A difference in usage of the word "fact" contributes to confusion in regard to the meaning of "theory". An appreciation of the various meanings of "fact" and "knowledge" can help to clarify an understanding of the meanings of "theory". "

Difference between law and theory in science - note both are "well-supported by observations and/or experimental evidence."
"Scientific laws are similar to scientific theories in that they are principles which can be used to predict the behavior of the natural world. Both scientific laws and scientific theories are typically well-supported by observations and/or experimental evidence. Usually scientific laws refer to rules for how nature will behave under certain conditions.[7] Scientific theories are more overarching explanations of how nature works and why it exhibits certain characteristics.

A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence has been accumulated. This is not true, as scientific theory and scientific law have different definitions. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory, a law will always remain a law. A theory will never become a law, and a law never was a theory."

 

[bobzz]

We didn't come from monkeys. We share a common primate ancestor with other apes, and humans ourselves remain apes (the third species of chimpanzee, to be precise).

Go back to school.

oh shuddup
uno wat i mean

thats not even the evolution theory you fuck wit

http://www.allaboutscience.org/evolution-of-man.htm

The modern theory concerning the evolution of man proposes that humans and apes derive from an apelike ancestor that lived on earth a few million years ago. The theory states that man, through a combination of environmental and genetic factors, emerged as a species to produce the variety of ethnicities seen today, while modern apes evolved on a separate evolutionary pathway.

so tell me then ape, whats the evoution theory?

In saying we all derive from the same thing, means at one stage, we were the same thing. Like the big bang theoy and the universe is expanding. Well if its expanding, then at one point, it was a singularity.

thanks im out

 

[staticsiscool]

Are you retarded? You just posted shit backing up what kwayera said?

 

[Kwayera]

micro eveolution is just variation soo that isnt even evoloution because it happens in the genes, not from the environment eg: all budgies were green at first then different colours started appearing in the birds. That doesnt mean its eveoloution, the same bird come out looking the same,doesnt turn into a cockatoo or a gallah, its a budgie. The colours come from the genes, and we dont see them in the wild because different coloured birds fall prey to predators. Only green budgies have a good survival rate.

You're right, the example of green budgies is not itself "evolution"; it is phenotypic plasticity, which is the variation of traits dependent on the environment. Phenotypic plasticity can lead to evolution.

However, microevolution/gene variation is still evolution; it's just not macroevolution.

 

[Kwayera]

Can you give an example of a genetic mutation or an evolutionary process which can be seen to increase the information in the genome?

What Will said.

It happens all the time.

 

[staticsiscool]

theres such a thing as "gravitational theory", the equations that result are laws

Newtons law of universal gravitation was superceded by the theory of general relativity. The law of gravity is a unification of the theory of special relativity and the law of universal gravitiation. Like i quoted before, a theory and a law are different things but both are something that can be proved, which contradicts these christian morons definition of a theory.

 

[Will Shakespear]

What Will said.

It happens all the time.

according to one of the biology lecturers at my uni, if you times the average mutation rate by the number of base pairs in the human genome

it works out that every human has about 3 unique new mutations each