$60b wiped off market (4 Viewers)

[Garygaz]

yeah im pretty much of the idea - state pays for you to go to school when you are unable to pay for yourself, maybe hex for uni, then cya son you're on your own. the doll shouldn't exist.

 

[Garygaz]

speak of the devil, i just checked my emails and boredofstudies sent me an email which was an advertisement for telstra. the fuck

 

[cosmo kramer]

i think like maybe 20% of people should be eligble to go to uni

subsidies or free education for people studying shit like medicine/engineering w/e & free education for people studying anything that exhibit genuinely remarkable talent but cant afford to pay themselves otherwise no subsidised education and full fees for cunts wanting to do an arts degree in some trash so they can party hard for 4 years and be retards

allow workplaces to use high validity (higher than college degree validity) psychometric job testing extensively so they wont need to use arts degrees anymore to screen for ability/diligence when sorting through the applicants for their advertised receptionist job which means large numbers of people wont need to go to uni anyway

we all save $$$$$ and time lets not hear any of the bullshit about OMG WHAT A LOSS THIS WILL BE TO HAVE A LESS EDUCATED POPULATION hahaha yeah right

 

[cosmo kramer]

bob weissbergs ideas about primary education could be implemented too

 

[zombie omie jay]

too many uni spots i think
too many degrees

fucking bachelors degree for everything these days

 

[zombie omie jay]

there is a bachelor of innovation and entrepreneurship at adelaide uni i mean cmon

 

[cosmo kramer]

get degrees in golf course design when theres more people graduating with a degree in it than there are golf courses
get degrees in hairdressing
get degrees in peanut butter
you send this way to a p.o box number and you get a phd in nuclear physics right back in the post

 

[cosmo kramer]

there is a bachelor of innovation and entrepreneurship at adelaide uni i mean cmon

yeah universities want to make $$$$ its a big business in itself

my sister has a degree in psychology from usyd lol she answers phones

what a waste of money for all of us to subsidise her for 4 years so she could get that degree so she could get that job

 

[Garygaz]

i've come to the conclusion that commerce is a pretty shit degree as well. everyone i talk to says nothing of value you learn in uni is used in workplace. haven't used a single thing i learnt at uni at work yet either.

 

[cosmo kramer]

also ffs make degrees as short as they can possibly be

dont give me this bullshit about how you need 4 years of learning or w/e to become a journalist hahaha yeah sure

more like get rid of all the course padding and all the useless bullshit and cut the degree time to like 1 year

stop wasting peoples time and money

 

[zombie omie jay]

i wish i could work as an engineer without a degree but i need professional recognition ugh
no cunt uses any of the maths we learn, thats what computers are for

 

[Garygaz]

its okay guys i learnt inequalities and graphing and matricies in quantitative methods, gonna help me trade the market and invest clients money. fuck yeh uni.

 

[Blastus]

definitely justifies $1700. mark my words gold will crash spectacularly, maybe not in the next 6 months/year, but it will.

Okay but no one has said otherwise it's not a permanent store of value, people are hedging while currencies are fucked like they do in anything else. What you're arguing is some 'inherent value' prices bullshit, gold is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.

CRASH SPECTACULARLY - there's no way gold is ever going south of ~1k an ounce in the next 5 years, you have Sovereign debt crises, the Chinese being fucking wary, the US looking particularly abysmal currency/recovery wise, the EU falling apart in front of our eyes and most of the main geopolitical bullshit hasn't even kicked off yet.

 

[Blastus]

need a degree to get engineering recognition 0 stars

protected field the worst (best)

 

[Garygaz]

Okay but no one has said otherwise it's not a permanent store of value, people are hedging while currencies are fucked like they do in anything else. What you're arguing is some 'inherent value' prices bullshit, gold is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.

CRASH SPECTACULARLY - there's no way gold is ever going south of ~1k an ounce in the next 5 years, you have Sovereign debt crises, the Chinese being fucking wary, the US looking particularly abysmal currency/recovery wise, the EU falling apart in front of our eyes and most of the main geopolitical bullshit hasn't even kicked off yet.

hyperbole on the word crash, replace with correct. to be honest gold could go to 2k for all i know, but it will drift back in line with its $ historical growth eventually. i'm not saying in any way 'herpderp gold should be worth what it can be practically used for' but rather how it just has no real legitimate reason to be some store of value because only a certain amount of it exists in the world. like you could replace any rare substance with gold, it could be a store of value in a parallel world and people might be 'oh damn, look at the diamond price go up'.

look based on the reasons people flock to gold (which i personally believe the reasons are stupid) it should keep on pushing up at least for a while. the whole concept is so bizare, owning a piece of metal rather than owning a bond or shares which can generate an income for you. but hey, if you can trade it and get out at the right time, kudos, you'll make a lot of money. just because something is illegitimate doesn't mean you can't make money from it.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

i think like maybe 20% of people should be eligble to go to uni

subsidies or free education for people studying shit like medicine/engineering w/e & free education for people studying anything that exhibit genuinely remarkable talent but cant afford to pay themselves otherwise no subsidised education and full fees for cunts wanting to do an arts degree in some trash so they can party hard for 4 years and be retards

allow workplaces to use high validity (higher than college degree validity) psychometric job testing extensively so they wont need to use arts degrees anymore to screen for ability/diligence when sorting through the applicants for their advertised receptionist job which means large numbers of people wont need to go to uni anyway

we all save $$$$$ and time lets not hear any of the bullshit about OMG WHAT A LOSS THIS WILL BE TO HAVE A LESS EDUCATED POPULATION hahaha yeah right

Is an increased population of educated people not an economic investment that also allows us to be more globally competitive?
Nation gives strong education > people get good jobs > others make money from the disposable income of those who have good jobs when they buy shit.

also ffs make degrees as short as they can possibly be

dont give me this bullshit about how you need 4 years of learning or w/e to become a journalist hahaha yeah sure

more like get rid of all the course padding and all the useless bullshit and cut the degree time to like 1 year

stop wasting peoples time and money

Cannot say how much I agree with this though, not sure what it's like at other unis or in other courses though but I suspect you could easily shave a year or more off quite a few degrees (probs not shit like engineering I guess).

 

[abbeyroad]

telstra ran a fear campaign against the nbn? that's news to me.

okay let me go back to square one. i'm not sure where this arguement got too, but it was originally about tax and now has moved onto having gov owned monopolies in markets to fund public spending?

hate to keep bringing up the same points but do you guys even remember how shit telstra was when it was government owned? horrible call out times on technicians, call centres jammed, super high pricing and all around poor service. this is what happens when you have a government controlled monopoly. no incentive to improve, no incentive to innovate. since then? just look at their financial reports today, no wonder the stock has shot up >4% even though the market is down. the australian public is better off now with internet/telecommunications choices then they were in telstras monopoly gov. enterprise days.

and re the stats on china, it is a socialist country, where they don't have elections, free speech is curtailed, the internet is censored, trials are held behind closed doors.

even so:



look at the ROA on those companies. if you're wanting to live in a world without tax, enjoy sacrificing efficient industry.

or you could just embrace anarcho-capitalism, no tax efficient industries win win

tbh I'd choose inefficiency over robbery any day

 

[Funky Monk]

also ffs make degrees as short as they can possibly be

dont give me this bullshit about how you need 4 years of learning or w/e to become a journalist hahaha yeah sure

more like get rid of all the course padding and all the useless bullshit and cut the degree time to like 1 year

stop wasting peoples time and money

lol journalism degrees are a fucking joke

i have a minor in journo lol thanks taxpayas

 

[Blastus]

hyperbole on the word crash, replace with correct. to be honest gold could go to 2k for all i know, but it will drift back in line with its $ historical growth eventually. i'm not saying in any way 'herpderp gold should be worth what it can be practically used for' but rather how it just has no real legitimate reason to be some store of value because only a certain amount of it exists in the world. like you could replace any rare substance with gold, it could be a store of value in a parallel world and people might be 'oh damn, look at the diamond price go up'.

look based on the reasons people flock to gold (which i personally believe the reasons are stupid) it should keep on pushing up at least for a while. the whole concept is so bizare, owning a piece of metal rather than owning a bond or shares which can generate an income for you. but hey, if you can trade it and get out at the right time, kudos, you'll make a lot of money. just because something is illegitimate doesn't mean you can't make money from it.

commodities illegitimate says internet expert

 

[cosmo kramer]

Is an increased population of educated people not an economic investment that also allows us to be more globally competitive?

like how many people do you know who have a degree but always say that what they learned in their degree doesnt help them at all in their job and that the work theyre doing now is tangentially or not even related to their education at all

how many people with arts degrees are working in pubs or answering phones or doing admin and data entry like a lot of my friends and my sister

the reason the degree helps so many people get good jobs isnt because without learning about boong painted rocks and dideridoos in indigenous studies you cant be a receptionist because you dont have the SKILSL (lmao) ts because employers use degrees as screening devices to weed out retards

if 50% of people go to university and you're an employer advertising for a receptionist job who are you going to hire

1) guy with no degree just a high school education
2) guy with a degree in peanut butter from charles sturt university bathurst campus or whatever the fuck

yeah youll take the guy with the degree in peanut butter b/c its likely hes not as retarded or as lazy as the first guy so therefore the probability of you training successfully the peanut butter guy and having a decent worker over the high school diploma fag is significantly higher even if the fag with the high school diploma has nothing necessarily wrong with him and can do the job just as well

what im saying is that obv university or some form of learning is good for some people and necessary

but for a lot of peopel its just a ticket to get a decent job that nobody would be considered for otherwise not because youre learning anything useful (lol talk to a bunch of fags with degrees theres so many of them who are just flatout retards who dont know anything) but b/c employers will chuck your resume in the bin otherwise

the alternative is simple extensive utilisation of job-skills testing for a plethora of different jobs

long psychometrically sound valid tests anybody can take that predict performance (they can easily be created) better than degrees

you could show your awesome test score to an employer and youre some high school drop out fag and hell actually want to consider you over a fag who went to usyd with a degree in stealin m&ms fromt because the test is psychometrically constructed to predict performace better than just a degree

how much more efficient this would be over degrees how much tax $$$$$$ it would save

these tests are illegal in the u.s btw