2008 Presidential Election - Obama v McCain (3 Viewers)

[Captain Hero]

I dunno, Cheney does hunt quail.

Hahhahah Cheney also hunts lawyers. In the FACE.

 

[GUSSSSSSSSSSSSS]

Most people i know who are "BARRAKing" for Obama are just idiots who have no idea about American politics or the current world situation and only want him cos he is black, and he is the only one they have heard about
Everyone sensible that i know wants Mccain

 

[bigboyjames]

At least, it's very hard to see that happening if Obama is elected.

Well clearly, in terms of an actual sensible vote, it's an absolute no-brainier. OBAMA should be the next president of the united states. Obama represents change, he represents pro-choice, more approachable democratic party, and he seems a pretty likable, driven and charming bloke.

the thing is, and everyone knows this If Obama was white then this election wouldn't even be a contest IMO. But he isn't, so there is that shred of doubt in my mind that ignorant fucks from the south with their fucked up minds will be avoiding a black man.

 

[Iron]

Damn straight it wouldnt be a constest if he was white - HE WOULD NEVER HAVE DEFEATED HILLARY

 

[Captain Hero]

McCain and Obama are pretty much the same from a foreign policy standpoint, excepting Iraq. They'll both increase the size of government but Obama will take America in a better direction.

 

[Iron]

I actually think that McCain is right on Iraq. He made a strong committment to success. Obama's unconditional committment to withdrawal, for his own selfish poltiical gain, is a massive flaw in judgement.
America may occasionally make the wrong decisions but get fucked Obama, we never surrender.

 

[bigboyjames]

Damn straight it wouldnt be a constest if he was white - HE WOULD NEVER HAVE DEFEATED HILLARY

do you really think the democrats would nominate a neoconservative....who has a foreign policy resembles that of McCain?

 

[Captain Hero]

Hillary isn't a Neocon...

 

[Iron]

do you really think the democrats would nominate a neoconservative....who has a foreign policy resembles that of McCain?

aYEEAS. They would have had no CHOICE

 

[jb_nc]

Most people i know who are "BARRAKing" for Obama are just idiots who have no idea about American politics or the current world situation and only want him cos he is black, and he is the only one they have heard about
Everyone sensible that i know wants Mccain

Thanks, GUSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

 

[Slidey]

I actually think that McCain is right on Iraq.

Yeah what with his plan to be in Iraq for 100 years?

 

[Slidey]

Most people i know who are "BARRAKing" for Obama are just idiots who have no idea about American politics or the current world situation and only want him cos he is black, and he is the only one they have heard about
Everyone sensible that i know wants Mccain

Most people i know who are barracking for McCain are just idiots who have no idea about American politics or the current world situation and only want him cos he is right-wing conservative, and he is the only one they have heard about
Everyone sensible that i know wants Obama

 

[Iron]

Yeah what with his plan to be in Iraq for 100 years?

If necessary for American security, why not? It's highly unlikely that it will be necessary, that's the point.
They still have sizable forces in Germany and South Korea for instance - what the hell is wrong with that? Why on earth would you rule that out?
A nation's willingness to fight for its interests must be beyond question. This is pretty basic.

 

[Slidey]

If necessary for American security, why not? It's highly unlikely that it will be necessary, that's the point.
They still have sizable forces in Germany and South Korea for instance - what the hell is wrong with that? Why on earth would you rule that out?
A nation's willingness to fight for its interests must be beyond question. This is pretty basic.

And you think the situation in Iraq is similar to the one in Japan or South Korea?

 

[Enteebee]

Yeah what with his plan to be in Iraq for 100 years?

Okay... I love Obama as much as you but let's make sure we don't distort what's been said. McCain was asked something along the lines of "What do you think about reports that we may need to stay in Iraq for another 50 years?" and he responded by saying "What about 100?". His point being that often there will be a need for a continued American military presence of some type for many years after the conflict, he then goes on to explain that he doesn't necessarily have a problem with such small maintained presences as long as America's interests are at the heart of it and there are no longer American casualties.

The truth is that the democrats also support this position, when they talk about 'withdrawing the troops' they do not mean taking every single American troop out of there.

 

[Enteebee]

Damn straight it wouldnt be a constest if he was white - HE WOULD NEVER HAVE DEFEATED HILLARY

Probably not, but he has a beautiful voice and gives a rousing speech so I disagree with people who claim he would have been the equivalent of a junior Edwards.

 

[bigboyjames]

If necessary for American security, why not? It's highly unlikely that it will be necessary, that's the point.

yeah, a bunch of rag heads are a threat to US security. LAWL

They still have sizable forces in Germany and South Korea for instance - what the hell is wrong with that? Why on earth would you rule that out?
A nation's willingness to fight for its interests must be beyond question. This is pretty basic.

So South korea and Germany has an Al Qaeda presence? That's news to me.

 

[Iron]

And you think the situation in Iraq is similar to the one in Japan or South Korea?

Well believe it or not, but the troops were actually fighting the Germans and Japanese and Koreans before now. The security of these nations is in the vital interests of America's security and, hey, the security of the free world.

 

[Slidey]

Okay... I love Obama as much as you but let's make sure we don't distort what's been said. McCain was asked something along the lines of "What do you think about reports that we may need to stay in Iraq for another 50 years?" and he responded by saying "What about 100?". His point being that often there will be a need for a continued American military presence of some type for many years after the conflict, he then goes on to explain that he doesn't necessarily have a problem with such small maintained presences as long as America's interests are at the heart of it and there are no longer American casualties.

The truth is that the democrats also support this position, when they talk about 'withdrawing the troops' they do not mean taking every single American troop out of there.

No, I'm pretty sure the Democrats plan to withdraw from Iraq and focus on Afghanistan.

Also, the full quote: "I don't think Americans are concerned if we're there [Iraq] for 100 years or 1,000 years or 10,000 years." --John McCain

 

[Iron]

Slidey, mate, youre a stooge