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Im so sorry , if you knew me more , you'd know im not like that , i WAS apologising, lol. :) Sorry :)

Yes , see , most people work it out themselves etc. advanced Sam i direct your attention to this post to see how Satan is able to draw people away from God by convincing them he does not exist , and nor do absolute right or absolute wrong. Captain whomever ( i wish ud post your name) i know what...

thanks alot Kfunk. Im like a virus that stubbornly wont go away.

Nooooooo. I was saying if Satan can convince us there is no real wrong ( by convincing people he doesnt exist)... Sorry i assumed youd remember where we were up to.

If there is no real wrong (no need for salvation , which is the basis of Christianity), there is no real right , all is relative , all depends on the individual , we can be gods to ourselves...no need for true God.

In what way? But i think Satan would do whatever neccessary to separate us from God...

Blur the line between right and wrong.

Well yeah i think they wouldve been....but i think enough people know about God and satan today that if it was happening all along....i mean who'd be stupid enough to abandon God? Sorry Ive got a headache struggling to think , lol. Surely if satan has a brain , he'd be trying a new tactic , like...

Mmmm...No i think he has just changed his tactics to be honest....i dont think he'd be stupid enough to, ahem , not keep it relevant.

:) Well a big red guy with a pitchfork does. I know what you mean....but i do attribute evil to a source called Satan. I wonder how evil even began existing? Did God create it or did he give his angels the power to create it? (such as Lucifer???) Im having a weird day.....

Anyone who thinks Christians are nice , should read the bible...read how Jesus referred to some people! "you brood of vipers" "you white washed tombstones!" "You hypocrite!"...oddly enough he was talking to religious people those times. Also how he THREW people out of the temple who were using...

Oh. If people dont even believe Satan exists dont know what their problem is:D

can you explain what you mean about ingroup outgroup mentalities?

Can you please not say that? If not for Him , for people like me , can you please not say that.

Sam:( Its not my fault - grr gay LOTR books. I am a nerd though...sort of Sam is pretty good for a math=science man:) EDIT: sorry off topic

Confession: I have wondered whether faith was invented to stop me from asking too many questions.... Im sure it wasnt though. Does anyone know what KFunk's name is? I bet it is Edward or something like that , lol :) Nerds usually have odd names....not that KFunk is a nerd....

Hi? Lol

I wonder if there WAS someone who zeus was based upon.

Hahaa!

I know..... but believers arent as sceptical, once the choice to have faith is made.