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Now you've got two people on your case.

By saying that, you've now made me incredibly curious. Just say yes or no? Not that hard.

Ok, I'm really hoping that bit was a joke. :P Well, I actually think that if you have gay friends, that's something to be admired. Not many people can...you know...well I know I would have trouble being friends with someone whose way of life or whatever was so against what I believe.

I don't think it's a disease. But there was this big argument about what constitutes a disease. A disease is actually any deviation from a 'normal' state, but I don't believe homosexuality is abnormal.

Lol. So what's your opinion on it then? Aside from whether it can technically be defined as a disease/genetic abnormality etc?

Iron, just curious, what would you do if you had a gay child? Also, have you ever actually met a gay person and talked to them properly? P.S. I liked your post on climate change.

Yes.

Celibacy

Um...no. I don't see what that has to do with it, anyway.

Of course not...and if I was, I'd be highly unlikely to bring it up on a public forum. What I'm saying is that I think that part of the reasons there's such problems with priests and abuse, not only in the Catholic Church but also the Greek Orthodox, is because the priests have repressed...

Look no further than the Catholic Church, Iron... If the priests were ALLOWED to have sex, maybe they could keep their hands off the little boys.

My opinion of you, Iron, has rocketed several notches. :) I'm not so Narcissistic to assume that this would mean a great deal to you, but it does make me realise that some of the assumptions I made about you were unfair.

What brain?

And look where chastity ends up...

Yeah. Except the people who go by that argument would maintain that gays should transcend their biology and live a chaste life...

Yeah. I know. I didn't say it was rendered completely, irrefutably invalid. I said it was rendered invalid by that particular argument, which could, in turn, be rendered invalid by something else...it's the same as how some people see evolution as invalidating the concept of a higher...

Wow. That's really, really interesting. So the biological argument that we aren't 'meant' to be gay is rendered invalid by this.

Wow. Never knew that. How interesting.

Very true. People who use the Bible as a 'weapon' against gays fail to realise that they pick and choose, a point which is elegantly explained in this hilarious video about Proposition 8 (Californian movement to ban gay marriage). "Prop 8 - The Musical" starring Jack Black, John C. Reilly...

You go girl!