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After checking out this thread, just wondering what people think about voting in general. Should it be compulsory? Is it fair? etc...

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Plus, it was one of the big things that got him elected over Howard...his promises to make climate change a priority. It was a big thing at the time, he's not gonna let go of it in a hurry. Also, what with other developed nations viewing it with such importance, it'd look pretty stupid if Rudd...

Fair enough. But there are 16s who *do* give a crap. I did. My friends did. Maybe it should be optional for 16s and 17s and then compulsory from 18?

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I like Rudd for many reasons. That's not to say I think he's perfect, by any means. There are a lot of things I disagree with him on. But for as long as I can remember, John Howard was in power. And, imo, Rudd is a whole lot better that Howard.

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Yep. I think people should be able to decide what is inappropriate for themselves, not have it decided for them.

Okay, you want examples? What about looking at other great apes? Gorillas, chimps, etc...they have complex social structures in which they function...humans have apparently inherited this tendency as well. It's evident in countless social situations, think about how, if you get a group of people...

The objection I would have here would be the inevitable underclass that would be created. What about people who can't afford to pay for someone to defend them? And what if the person you're paying to defend you suddenly stops because they get a better offer? The problem is, also, who defines...

Agreed. Although there *are* similarities, we're essentially different countries. The cultures are different. Being close isn't a good argument for merging with NZ. Plus, I'm pretty sure they'd refuse on the grounds of our indigenous policies, they apparently have *much* better integration over...

Yeah fair enough. So maybe there needs to be a change in what's considered the norm.

How on earth is it morally repugnant not to be concerned about someone I know killing another over someone I know sleeping around? 'Oh...I'm ok with you shooting Uncle Bob, he was a bit too promiscuous for my liking, just as long as you didn't cheat on me with him first.' We are talking...

Yeah. Personality...I find that people's attractiveness comes from how they *use* their faces, arms, hands etc, not the actual appearance of them.

A revolution would have to be really well-planned to work...it *would* be kind of cool to have one, though...(only if it brings what I want, though :P). No, but seriously, I hope there's one in Afghanistan that forces us to get the fuck out of there. Not the Taliban though, the ordinary...

Exactly. And that, I feel, would be the problem. On one side of the coin, this system would mean an end to oppression etc, on another, without *any* group being able to enforce *anything* there would be no law, no way of deterring those who seek to harm others. Without this, people would not...

Yeah, I completely agree. That's my whole point. Why should we as a society collectively decide what we condemn within media? It should be up to the individual families to decide what they consider appropriate, not the wider community.

Hmm...well that is a hard one...I would have to say the GF option... But the only reason I would care about the GF thing more is because it affects me personally... If, however, there were two news items and one was about a guy who cheated on his GF in Kosovo and the other about a guy who...