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Oooh I like this PS how are you getting this info? ABC isn't reporting anything of significance, they are doing bloody vox pops

Lets be honest I don't think anybody is disappointed to see Conroy go

Poor Chris Hayes, the press pack treat him like he's omnipotent

Perhaps if it doesn't interest you shouldn't be posting in a thread dedicated to it.

I don't know all the ins and outs but basically the unions contribute a heap of money to the labor party and for historical reasons have a (50% iirc) vote at the national conference. Long story short the unions wield a lot of power in the party. If you therefore 'control' a union you have an...

It's weird. I have no problem with changing the leader, but for some reason I am furious with shorten. I think he's been the most dishonorable of all for the past few years.

I thought they might have learnt *something* in the past 5 or so years

OzKo isn't a derro, he's just a young liberal

Unions

Thank you

Bogans please gtfo, the future of this country is more important than a stupid footy match

Oh I definitely think Gillard is the Whitlam of our generation, it will just take a while for people to see that.

I haven't changed my tune at all. I'll still be voting labor, I support labor, but I think a loss is a better outcome in the long term for the party. Like I said I support parties, not personalities. I want a strong labor party and it will not get strong by winning the next election. Unlike...

I just want labor to loose the next election and sort out the factional bullshit for once and for all.

I wonder if you can get your head even further up your own arse? The media have been claiming for weeks that a showdown was *imminent* they only managed to actually get it right today. They certainly weren't right about a delegation telling the PM to step aside. Moving on, I really didn't...

This would make me very happy

Death match is the technical term is it? :-p

First off I'm not going to quit a site that I have belonged to and contributed to for almost 10 years because of an opinion I hold regarding the outcome of an election. Secondly. Two less independents doesn't mean there can't be a hung parliament. As long as there is at least a third party...

JG will leave parliament if she doesn't win

Scratch that ballot at 7pm