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Re-read the excerpt from the Paris Manuscripts. Your objection is answered there. Once the alienating nature of labour is done away with people will be motivated to labour and produce not only by physical necessity but for the fulfilment it offers them in accordance with their "species being".

I prefer people not making useless (albeit hilarious) one liners. Turns out we can't have it all though... Why how very relevant to the discussion indeed.... In response to the article, capitalism is not merely the free-market. The "socialism" of the USSR was just as much capitalism as...

I'm letting the text speak for itself. I could of course choose to type out a rather lengthy post on the alienation of labour for example but it is much easier to cite the text. Also, my heavy use of quoting has been to dispel any illusions that I am (as a poster claimed earlier) "repackaging...

Wage-labour is alienating. What constitutes the alienation of labour? Firstly, the fact that labour is external to the worker – i.e., does not belong to his essential being; that he, therefore, does not confirm himself in his work, but denies himself, feels miserable and not happy, does not...

1. State capitalism is not a solution to the class struggle. But, the transformation — either into joint-stock companies and trusts, or into State-ownership — does not do away with the capitalistic nature of the productive forces. In the joint-stock companies and trusts, this is obvious. And...

Exactly. A Marxist does not "support" communism on the basis that it is a "better society". They support it on the basis of the class struggle. I haven't been. I've been combating the notion that the "communist states" where communist and that they can thus not be used to assess the merits of...

And if they do?: In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after...

What does this have to do with anything? Please, stay on topic. I'm not exactly understanding what you are saying here (your English makes no sense at all), but I'll try to respond as best I can. The hypothetical of the farmer in a communist society did not present my "wishes" for how society...

*Cough* I asked you a question. Please don't ignore my post. Huh? Are you trying to make a point here? I don't get it.

Sorry, what do you mean by this? (Why did you quote all that post just for an off-topic one-liner?)

Yes I suppose you could put it that way. "Ownership" (if one could even use the word) is collective and as such the social product is collective "property" (if one could use the word) of society (which will be the collective association of free producers). In so far as communist relations of...

I am afraid I do not understand this criticism. Would you care to elaborate? 1. The vagueness that permeates discussion on the nature of communism comes down to that fact that - to paraphrase Marx - we can't dictate the recipes for the cooks of tomorrow. To bring it back to my signature...

Put the Libertarian BS away and start reading Marx. (See I can make useless one liners as well ;)) Who are these "communists" you speak of exactly? Would you care to provide some examples of their "promises" and why they are not "viable". Sorry to break it to you buddy, but you obviously do...

Thank you, I'm glad to hear they aren't being ignored :)

How dare those greedy workers demand higher wages let alone and end to the wage system all together... Sorry there Towlie, state capitalism and social welfare does not do away with classes, class antagonisms and their foundation in the alienating and exploitative social relations of capitalist...

And you people who can't differentiate between "Communist States" and Marxist communism are even more misguided. No capitalism, feudalism and slavery are "slavery and repression". This of course includes the USSR, Cuba, North Korea, China and all other "Communist states" because they were...

This is a shaky definition. How can a "socio-economic structure" is not a conscious agent. Thus to say that a socio-economic structure can promote "the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general"...

You make a very convincing argument indeed. Sarcasm aside, like every other post in this thread hitherto: 1. Define "communism" 2. Provide evidence to support your assertion that humans are "greedy" by "nature" 3. Explain why humanity's "inherent greedy" runs contrary to the realisation of a...

Please, I don't want spared. If you've got an argument make one, if not then don't. The reality of the situation is that thus far the debates I seem to have gotten myself into so far would prove contrary to your assertion that my arguments and weak. Yes, yes, what ever you say Sam, you really...

Never heard of the guy before. A quick google search tells me he's a radio host on 2GB. What does this have to do with anything? Wait, what? Posts are organised in a linear fashion, so you can not dispute reading my response to Sam04u's reply. Why then would you then make the same objection as...