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  1. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Zstar, I'm not interested in your argument any more. All it does it continually return to this same premise: "Humans are greedy" or "Humans are competitive". These points have been dealt with prior, noting both their transitory nature and also their compatibility with communism.
  2. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    No. The absolutely essential nature of the revolution and subsequently socialism to grow internationally is at the very centre of Marxist theory. Whilst I could quote innumerable subsequent Marxists on this matter (particularly from the Communist Left), I think it's best to let Marx and Engels...
  3. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Ronin, to begin let me just say that I am disappointed by your critique. I think it is very juvenile and superficial. I would love to know as to where this list summary of "Marxist Dogma" is copy and pasted from. I've seen it before and their are a few points of contention I have with it which I...
  4. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Then read Marx's critique (The Poverty of Philosophy) as find out as to why he is a redundant fool
  5. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    The statement does not imply that "Living to work should be your pleasure and end function". Rather, it is trying to say that in a hypothetical communist society labour will lose it's alienating and dehumanising character, that is it will become an activity freely engaged in for the fulfilment...
  6. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" I would agree that Stalin's USSR was not in anyway socialist or transitional but merely state-capitalist. Your points below regarding Stalin's abandonment of basic socialist principles is of course undeniable and his decisions...
  7. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Not only have you not answered the question (which I only asked in passing and as an attempt to challenge "common sense" assumptions), you ran off on pointless tangent for which you supplied no evidence what so ever. What a fucking joke, this has not substance at all. All you have done is copy...
  8. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    I'm afraid you are confused here. I have not, do not and will not claim that “communism works in practice”. I am not arguing this at all. What I am arguing is the negative of your position (ie. I disagree with your assertion that “communism doesn't work in practice”), not the inverse (ie...
  9. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" Thank you for clarifying. I admit I am far from an expert re the life and politics of Stalin. Despite this I think the views presented by academics such as those you listed are on "the fringe". I would not call it...
  10. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" As I made clear in my reply to Captain Hero, I think this is a mis-characterisation of my politics. Secondly, the quote provided certainly does not lend to your conclusion of my supposed Menshevism in anyway. Again I think...
  11. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" On what basis do you claim I am a Menshevik!? I am a self-described Left-Communist, something far removed from Menshevism. Also, are you a Marxist? If you are I'm guessing a Trotskyist. *Edit*: I guess not.... If that is...
  12. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" I'm going to say this for the final time. School has started for me and this thread has been steered way off course. I am no longer interested in argument presented. I will respond to any post which I see as being worth my time...
  13. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Re: 回复: Re: "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity" To be honest, I didn't get much out of all this. I do just want to re-iterate. I do not believe communism requires the type of "paradigm shift" or "social programming" you describe. Nor doI see any no good reason to start...
  14. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Nor where you one of the founding members of this thread. I would agree with the former statement, but disagree with the latter as irrelevant and useless for two reasons. Firstly the matter of how we define "better". Different sections of society have very different understandings of what is...
  15. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    I found it necessary to devote the space and time to establishing who carries the burden of proof in our little scuffle since you proved unable to do so. The fact that you attribute to it a supposed lack of confidence in my own argument is unnecessary and actually shows your own desperation to...
  16. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    :rofl: Damn you're a lucky bastard! If our school did those options for modern history I probably would have picked it over physics. Nah, I'm not a Trotskyist, I suffer from the "infantile disorder" (ie. Left-Communism). *Ding, Ding, Ding!* Ladies and Gentlemen we have a winner...
  17. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    @ Matt1120, I'm glad you found my response of value. On a completely unrelated note, as a self-described "history nerd" I'd be interested to hear your opinions of Marx's Materialist Conception of History (aka Historical Materialism). Maybe you'd even be interested in reading some historical...
  18. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    It seems to me you have some major confusion regarding the burden of proof. Firstly let us define the burden of proof. If in some situation there is a proper presumption that something is true, anyone seeking to prove its opposite is said to bear the burden of proof. A certain amount of...
  19. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    *Fixed* I've said all this before. Communism is not a political system! We aren't even talking about the same thing here! Christ, what is so hard about this people! To everyone: Not only am I really fed up with this debate, since I'm going back to school tomorrow I'm not going to bother to...
  20. Zeitgeist308

    "Communism is the greatest evil unleashed on humanity"

    Zstar you are pathetic. Your "arguments" were smashed to pieces 10 pages. I'm surprised you even had the hide to return. Matter of fact you were only able to do it with the support of other posters, returning only to assert victory bereft of argument. Yes I do. Where you see success on the...
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