Schools that Don't offer Extension 2 Maths (2 Viewers)

[davidgoes4wce]

Curious to know for students that are currently studying in high schools in NSW (or previous years), I'd like to know which schools don't offer Extension 2 maths as a subject at their school.

I'm aware that not all subjects are offered at some schools due to demand and logistics. Looking at last year's 2015 cohort, 3362 students did Extension 2 out of a possible 69,211 number of students doing HSC.

 

[dan964]

Curious to know for students that are currently studying in high schools in NSW (or previous years), I'd like to know which schools don't offer Extension 2 maths as a subject at their school.

I'm aware that not all subjects are offered at some schools due to demand and logistics. Looking at last year's 2015 cohort, 3362 students did Extension 2 out of a possible 69,211 number of students doing HSC.

A lot don't, in contrast you would find that most selectives, private, elite, and good schools offer it. But other schools, it really depends on if there are people wanting to do it.

 

[Nailgun]

Well it's not exactly surefire or rigorous, but checking the DA's list for 4U maths on a site like topscores would give you a list of schools that had people that got e4 in 4u
(this of course leaves out all the schools that don't manage an e4, but better than nothing right?)
From the 2015 cohort this means the 1202 students who did get an e4

http://www.topscores.info/select-nsw.php?req=da-school-subj&year=2015&sortBy=name&filter=subject!Contains!Mathematics%20Extension%202&pageno=1#pagehere

still about 200 schools so worth a look

 

[Trebla]

I think the bigger factor is a shortage of skills and resourcing rather than demand. There aren't that many teachers out there who have knowledge of Maths Extension 2 let alone teach it. I know of cases where a student wanted to do Maths Extension 2 but the school doesn't have the resources to offer it.

 

[eyeseeyou]

When most peoples' schools don't offer extension 2, they will move to another school

 

[mcchicken]

Yeah my school doesn't offer MX2 or EX2

Or history extension

 

[braintic]

I think the bigger factor is a shortage of skills and resourcing rather than demand. There aren't that many teachers out there who have knowledge of Maths Extension 2 let alone teach it. I know of cases where a student wanted to do Maths Extension 2 but the school doesn't have the resources to offer it.

When a school says they don't have the resources, it usually means that only 1 or 2 wants to do Ext 2, and their teachers would be better allocated elsewhere. It is usually not a reflection on whether the school has a teacher who is capable and/or willing to teach the course. A school only gets a fixed number of teachers, a function of the number of students.

 

[leehuan]

When a school says they don't have the resources, it usually means that only 1 or 2 wants to do Ext 2, and their teachers would be better allocated elsewhere. It is usually not a reflection on whether the school has a teacher who is capable and/or willing to teach the course. A school only gets a fixed number of teachers, a function of the number of students.

Typically true but not always.

3 at our school wanted to do EX2 and another 3 as well MX2. Only MX2 got offered.

 

[braintic]

Typically true but not always.

3 at our school wanted to do EX2 and another 3 as well MX2. Only MX2 got offered.

That's right ..... they had to make a choice because two students for 6 students is too costly.

 

[Drongoski]

It would be very costly for a school to provide a subject for which the enrolment number is very small - say less than 5. So it amazes me how many of the more expensive independent schools can afford to offer both the HSC and the IB programmes. I know for a fact that for some of the IB subjects, e.g. Maths (HL), some schools end up with only one student for the subject, after some students drop down to the easier Maths (SL). Even when they charge anything from $28,000 to $32,500 in fees each year, how can they cover the very large additional costs involved.

 

[eyeseeyou]

It would be very costly for a school to provide a subject for which the enrolment number is very small - say less than 5. So it amazes me how many of the more expensive independent schools can afford to offer both the HSC and the IB programmes. I know for a fact that for some of the IB subjects, e.g. Maths (HL), some schools end up with only one student for the subject, after some students drop down to the easier Maths (SL). Even when they charge anything from $28,000 to $32,500 in fees each year, how can they cover the very large additional costs involved.

Good point you brought up here but it wouldn't it be a it useless to run a course with only 4 students? Surprisingly enough at my friend's school, it offers chinese and with like 3 people it runs and with another subject...say like geography more than 10 people do it and it's not run at all, even the head teacher of social science encourages people to do it at his school

 

[Nailgun]

Good point you brought up here but it wouldn't it be a it useless to run a course with only 4 students? Surprisingly enough at my friend's school, it offers chinese and with like 3 people it runs and with another subject...say like geography more than 10 people do it and it's not run at all, even the head teacher of social science encourages people to do it at his school

Well I would say this is more of a teacher resource thing. Perhaps there are no available teachers to teach Geography, or the Chinese teacher isn't capable of teaching much else.

 

[InteGrand]

Good point you brought up here but it wouldn't it be a it useless to run a course with only 4 students? Surprisingly enough at my friend's school, it offers chinese and with like 3 people it runs and with another subject...say like geography more than 10 people do it and it's not run at all, even the head teacher of social science encourages people to do it at his school

Some HSC subjects have fewer than 10 people in the state doing them, so probably only one person does them at some schools.

 

[Nailgun]

Some HSC subjects have fewer than 10 people in the state doing them, so probably only one person does them at some schools.

I think generally these courses are probably taught through distance education or Saturday school
They're usually languages yeah?

 

[eyeseeyou]

Well I would say this is more of a teacher resource thing. Perhaps there are no available teachers to teach Geography, or the Chinese teacher isn't capable of teaching much else.

There's like one or two for geography and for chinese he told me there's like 1 chinese teacher. I think it's coz they've got imports at his school and they really need to do it