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Not sure, but does this question assume that 0 <= p <= 1 ?
(I can see it easily for those values, but I haven't really considered values outside that range yet.)
 

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Not sure, but does this question assume that 0 <= p <= 1 ?
(I can see it easily for those values, but I haven't really considered values outside that range yet.)
In practice, p would be between 0 and 1, but the result seems to hold true for all other real p too.
 

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In practice, p would be between 0 and 1, but the result seems to hold true for all other real p too.
Just checking .... because it is a LONG LONG time since I've done this, but is this the expected value of a binomial distribution?
 

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Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Just checking .... because it is a LONG LONG time since I've done this, but is this the expected value of a binomial distribution?
It is indeed. :smile:
but only binomial expansion is needed to solve this problem. I've had one method in mind.

P.S. if you can prove it is true for 0<=p<=1, that actually means it is true for all real values of p. Because both LHS and RHS are polynomials of p of degree less than or equal to n, and if they are equal to each other at more than n points then they must be identical.
 
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Nice. Here was my attempt:

(by the binomial theorem)



(derivative of a sum is sum of derivatives on RHS)

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Set and , so x + y = 1, then

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Multiplying through by p yields (since and ) .
 

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Find the angle between the curves and .
 
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