2015ers Chit-Chat Thread (11 Viewers)

[turntaker]

Whatever floats you boat c: My little ragefest was more in context due to another thread at which things escalated to the point of being ridiculous.



Not to sure why I have to clarify. Either way it doesn't affect your or my argument

Ok then, going by your definition of derogatory then, if I were to say, be offended if you use words like postman or mailman or mankind or 'dude' or 'guys' when addressing females, because I believe it's patriarchal, are you going to stop using those words? How about if I find the word "attitude" annoying and offensive? Would you stop using that word? Although these examples seem somewhat more extreme than what has occurred, I believe the same message is present - that is, someone or some group wants to push their values and expectations on an unrelated individual.

It's also somewhat hypocritical that you believe everyone's interpretation of derogatory varies and yet you expect turntaker's idea of derogatory words to be the same as yours - otherwise you wouldn't be pushing your opinion on him.

That being said, doing the above mentioned in itself I don't believe is necessarily wrong, how you go about doing so is a different matter.


Still don't get why people were raging over turntaker's post and no the other hundred posts containing similar language.

Lastly, just would like to point out that by referencing turntaker's IRL jokes, you're implying somehow that terms like 'gay' are funny IRL but not on the net? Seems a bit contradictory since otherwise turntaker's "jokes" have no relevance to this argument ...?

Either way, as long as Turntaker isn't feeling uncomfortable I don't mind~

Pl0x stahp. Haha

 

[enigma_1]

Dude. Just stop with the essays. its scaring me

omg it's a tactic guys turntaker is making you waste your precious HSC study time by writing essays for him lel







jks jks

pls dun rekt me :'(

 

[enigma_1]

The thing is... it all comes down to a person's socio-economic background, what values have they been brought up with, and what external forces have influenced them to espouse what they believe in. And maybe from there, they could get all patriarchal on females, but again, as I state before, it's all relative to the individual's upbringings. If someone suddenly has this revelation of "holy shit, my worldviews have forever been shifted because of some radical events", then great. At the same time, it's not necessary to go all anal with your beliefs on your friends - ultimately it's for them to make an informed understanding of whether X word is considered derogatory and Y word isn't.

To be honest, I think you misunderstood what I was saying; I was never, ever trying to be a dick and blurt out stuff like "well, your use of language is utter bullshit in this context, hence you are wrong in every single way" - if I was, the situation could've gotten more awkward (but this is the internet lol, peeps can do whatever the hell they want). I even PM'ed him to acknowledge what I posted and turntaker said it was alright, since he was just mucking around. So I will admit I did go overboard, but I was I ever trying to act all superior on turntaker? Absolutely not.

Maybe that's because there hasn't been a recent occurrence like turntaker's? Lots of people I know on this forum definitely do not display similar sort of language - sure there's a few that act as keyboard warriors and intimate others, but as I knew them outside of BoS, they're much nicer. Which leads to what you said about me contradicting myself; just to clarify, I'm implying that turntaker's jokes IRL - not using terms like 'gay' or 'retards' on the - is completely different to the net, because you have to remember, online persona's don't necessarily reflect who they really are in the real world. So I'll let turntaker be with how he expresses his humour. Because at the end of the day, this is an online forum, so there's so much you can say without getting bagged out. (a.k.a if you shitpost, you will get shitposted by others )

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

omg lol

Guys enough with this debate hahahaha

 

[Fiction]

Pl0x stahp. Haha

The thing is... it all comes down to a person's socio-economic background, what values have they been brought up with, and what external forces have influenced them to espouse what they believe in. And maybe from there, they could get all patriarchal on females, but again, as I state before, it's all relative to the individual's upbringings. If someone suddenly has this revelation of "holy shit, my worldviews have forever been shifted because of some radical events", then great. At the same time, it's not necessary to go all anal with your beliefs on your friends - ultimately it's for them to make an informed understanding of whether X word is considered derogatory and Y word isn't.

To be honest, I think you misunderstood what I was saying; I was never, ever trying to be a dick and blurt out stuff like "well, your use of language is utter bullshit in this context, hence you are wrong in every single way" - if I was, the situation could've gotten more awkward (but this is the internet lol, peeps can do whatever the hell they want). I even PM'ed him to acknowledge what I posted and turntaker said it was alright, since he was just mucking around. So I will admit I did go overboard, but I was I ever trying to act all superior on turntaker? Absolutely not.

Maybe that's because there hasn't been a recent occurrence like turntaker's? Lots of people I know on this forum definitely do not display similar sort of language - sure there's a few that act as keyboard warriors and intimate others, but as I knew them outside of BoS, they're much nicer. Which leads to what you said about me contradicting myself; just to clarify, I'm implying that turntaker's jokes IRL - not using terms like 'gay' or 'retards' on the - is completely different to the net, because you have to remember, online persona's don't necessarily reflect who they really are in the real world. So I'll let turntaker be with how he expresses his humour. Because at the end of the day, this is an online forum, so there's so much you can say without getting bagged out. (a.k.a if you shitpost, you will get shitposted by others )

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

omg lol

Guys enough with this debate hahahaha

lol TBH I stopped caring once turntaker confirmed he wasn't being ~bullied/pressured~ by hawkrider or anyone else. That being said, I'm not against continuing I've got some more points I could list if hawkie wants, (such as the irrelevance of your first paragraph) ~

Btw you misunderstand me too hawkie on a number of things. They include the fact that my first post which you've appeared to have translated to be attacking you and you only, was also targeted towards those "other people" you mentioned who turntaker was pissing off - I'm presuming it's in another thread (if we're talking about the same incident). I would've posted there, but the dispute escalated quickly and left just as rapidly. Shame you had to raise it here.

 

[dangerouss]

Doubt this is the first time you've agreed with my views And if it is, then I've finally started to work my magic on you

Disagreed. I might be a bit biased since turntaker's was in one of my failed study groups and thus I'm = more sympathetic towards him than some random person I don't ~know~ on the net, but the people who you've labeled as ones who've continued using derogatory words incessantly, include those who haven't yet realised about the implications behind such language. Like what I've mentioned in my previous post (which you agreed with), such vocab has become the norm.

In turntaker's case I think he didn't realise the extent of how offensive some of his language were (no offense tho, it escalated pretty quickly :/) however, I legit don't know anyone who's willing to conform to another person's expectation if they're almost forced or pressured into it. It's the standard scenario of 'I told you so' that everyone wants to avoid.

Besides what exactly is your definition of derogatory? Is it politically uncorrect language? I've seen other people use gay or retard, policeman, postman etc on this forum and no one's blown up at them to this extent. What's so special about turntaker if I may ask?

i never knew derogatory was a subjective term

Oh. Hawk and I are mates. Its all good. I was just trolling cause people were getting so mad haha.

I like your essay though haha.

we r all m8s rite

Which movie to watch interstellar or hunger games?

hunger games because josh hutcherson

The thing is... it all comes down to a person's socio-economic background, what values have they been brought up with, and what external forces have influenced them to espouse what they believe in. And maybe from there, they could get all patriarchal on females, but again, as I state before, it's all relative to the individual's upbringings. If someone suddenly has this revelation of "holy shit, my worldviews have forever been shifted because of some radical events", then great. At the same time, it's not necessary to go all anal with your beliefs on your friends - ultimately it's for them to make an informed understanding of whether X word is considered derogatory and Y word isn't.

To be honest, I think you misunderstood what I was saying; I was never, ever trying to be a dick and blurt out stuff like "well, your use of language is utter bullshit in this context, hence you are wrong in every single way" - if I was, the situation could've gotten more awkward (but this is the internet lol, peeps can do whatever the hell they want). I even PM'ed him to acknowledge what I posted and turntaker said it was alright, since he was just mucking around. So I will admit I did go overboard, but I was I ever trying to act all superior on turntaker? Absolutely not.

Maybe that's because there hasn't been a recent occurrence like turntaker's? Lots of people I know on this forum definitely do not display similar sort of language - sure there's a few that act as keyboard warriors and intimate others, but as I knew them outside of BoS, they're much nicer. Which leads to what you said about me contradicting myself; just to clarify, I'm implying that turntaker's jokes IRL - not using terms like 'gay' or 'retards' on the - is completely different to the net, because you have to remember, online persona's don't necessarily reflect who they really are in the real world. So I'll let turntaker be with how he expresses his humour. Because at the end of the day, this is an online forum, so there's so much you can say without getting bagged out. (a.k.a if you shitpost, you will get shitposted by others )

"only girls cry" - hawkrider2k14 LOL

omg it's a tactic guys turntaker is making you waste your precious HSC study time by writing essays for him lel







jks jks

pls dun rekt me :'(

SNAKE

lol TBH I stopped caring once turntaker confirmed he wasn't being ~bullied/pressured~ by hawkrider or anyone else. That being said, I'm not against continuing I've got some more points I could list if hawkie wants, (such as the irrelevance of your first paragraph) ~

Btw you misunderstand me too hawkie on a number of things. They include the fact that my first post which you've appeared to have translated to be attacking you and you only, was also targeted towards those "other people" you mentioned who turntaker was pissing off - I'm presuming it's in another thread (if we're talking about the same incident). I would've posted there, but the dispute escalated quickly and left just as rapidly. Shame you had to raise it here.

m8 why r u so serious for

 

[dangerouss]

lol TBH I stopped caring once turntaker confirmed he wasn't being ~bullied/pressured~ by hawkrider or anyone else. That being said, I'm not against continuing I've got some more points I could list if hawkie wants, (such as the irrelevance of your first paragraph) ~

Btw you misunderstand me too hawkie on a number of things. They include the fact that my first post which you've appeared to have translated to be attacking you and you only, was also targeted towards those "other people" you mentioned who turntaker was pissing off - I'm presuming it's in another thread (if we're talking about the same incident). I would've posted there, but the dispute escalated quickly and left just as rapidly. Shame you had to raise it here.

Please don't.

I'm sure you've already 'enlightened' everyone with your godly diction and 'skillful rhetoric' through your 'logical and cohesive' responses to this matter.

(don't flaunt it if you ain't got it bby x0x0)

 

[turntaker]

Guys can't we just live in peace. Stop attacking each other

 

[turntaker]

Lol, I already said I'd stop.

I like your DP

 

[astroman]

<3

 

[turntaker]

Its Jon lenon

 

[dangerouss]

Guys can't we just live in peace. Stop attacking each other

soz but no

 

[turntaker]

soz but no

Ohmygud y u do dis


But srsly be nice

 

[CanU_Not]

i never knew derogatory was a subjective term

Not sure if srs LOL.
If I was an alien who had no idea what 'fuck you' meant, would the words carry the same degrading meaning for me? lewl. Everything that is potentially insulting is only offensive BECAUSE its subjective m8.

Please don't.

I'm sure you've already 'enlightened' everyone with your godly diction and 'skillful rhetoric' through your 'logical and cohesive' responses to this matter.

(don't flaunt it if you ain't got it bby x0x0)

Sarcastic and/or rude?
(Not the best way to play this game bby. xx)

BTW, no idea why everybody is so duh against essays. I personally found it quite enjoyable lewl (albeit slightly intrusive as I'm sure you two were carrying out ~friendly~ fire in a semi-private way.) I mean, with internet comes disagreements. And if they're not friendly (or even if they were) too many people rush into claiming it drama before they read it properly. If anything, these 'essays' hadn't regressed into insults yet, and in comparison to most internet arguments, I'd say it's pretty polite haha.

Kudos to Fiction for playing the devil's advocate and voicing what he/she believed in.

 

[Fiction]

Guys can't we just live in peace. Stop attacking each other

Lol, I already said I'd stop.

Your first paragraph is unnecessary because you've just reiterated your own point and haven't actually answered the question I imposed to you. I'd thought it was obvious.

m8 why r u so serious for

Please don't.

I'm sure you've already 'enlightened' everyone with your godly diction and 'skillful rhetoric' through your 'logical and cohesive' responses to this matter.

(don't flaunt it if you ain't got it bby x0x0)

haha @ Dangerouss, Aww you shouldn't have bby! Now it's going to ironically look like you care about this more than me Not that I'm complaining.

Hun, I'll be more than happy to pay attention to you instead of Hawkie, but I don't think you've hit the borderline between a substantial and unsubstantial post yet :c Maybe upgrade those skill from name-calling and Ad Hominem to counterargument? It's only a few levels up the argument pyramid. You can do it! Here's the link
http://english102-tamuc-barnes.wiki...nt_Pyramid.jpg/112461215/Argument_Pyramid.jpg
You're welcome C:

Btw, I've never mentioned myself as enlightening, or skillful. But how very flattering and sweet of you nonetheless. I'm so glad you hold me in such high regard, I couldn't have brought myself to (OMG), live, otherwise

Not sure if srs LOL.
If I was an alien who had no idea what 'fuck you' meant, would the words carry the same degrading meaning for me? lewl. Everything that is potentially insulting is only offensive BECAUSE it's subjective m8.


Sarcastic and/or rude?
(Not the best way to play this game bby. xx)

BTW, no idea why everybody is so duh against essays. I personally found it quite enjoyable lewl (albeit slightly intrusive as I'm sure you two were carrying out ~friendly~ fire in a semi-private way.) I mean, with internet comes disagreements. And if they're not friendly (or even if they were) too many people rush into claiming it drama before they read it properly. If anything, these 'essays' hadn't regressed into insults yet, and in comparison to most internet arguments, I'd say it's pretty polite haha.

Kudos to Fiction for playing the devil's advocate and voicing what he/she believed in.

lol thanks CanU_not, but I don't believe such immaturity is worth seriously responding to. From my experience, these posts are usually associated with either narrow-mindedness or a lack of confidence in formulating an actual point.

 

[dangerouss]

Ohmygud y u do dis


But srsly be nice

how about no

just cause i'm the sikkest kunt

Not sure if srs LOL.
If I was an alien who had no idea what 'fuck you' meant, would the words carry the same degrading meaning for me? lewl. Everything that is potentially insulting is only offensive BECAUSE its subjective m8.


Sarcastic and/or rude?
(Not the best way to play this game bby. xx)

BTW, no idea why everybody is so duh against essays. I personally found it quite enjoyable lewl (albeit slightly intrusive as I'm sure you two were carrying out ~friendly~ fire in a semi-private way.) I mean, with internet comes disagreements. And if they're not friendly (or even if they were) too many people rush into claiming it drama before they read it properly. If anything, these 'essays' hadn't regressed into insults yet, and in comparison to most internet arguments, I'd say it's pretty polite haha.

Kudos to Fiction for playing the devil's advocate and voicing what he/she believed in.

it ain't your game, so i play it how i want x

Your first paragraph is unnecessary because you've just reiterated your own point and haven't actually answered the question I imposed to you. I'd thought it was obvious.






haha @ Dangerouss, Aww you shouldn't have bby! Now it's going to ironically look like you care about this more than me Not that I'm complaining.

Hun, I'll be more than happy to pay attention to you instead of Hawkie, but I don't think you've hit the borderline between a substantial and unsubstantial post yet :c Maybe upgrade those skill from name-calling and Ad Hominem to counterargument? It's only a few levels up the argument pyramid. You can do it! Here's the link
http://english102-tamuc-barnes.wiki...nt_Pyramid.jpg/112461215/Argument_Pyramid.jpg
You're welcome C:

Btw, I've never mentioned myself as enlightening, or skillful. But how very flattering and sweet of you nonetheless. I'm so glad you hold me in such high regard, I couldn't have brought myself to (OMG), live, otherwise



lol thanks CanU_not, but I don't believe such immaturity is worth seriously responding to. From my experience, these posts are usually associated with either narrow-mindedness or a lack of confidence in formulating an actual point.

lost it at name-calling tbh

i do care about u wtf r u on about bb

also, just because people dont bother to argue it does not mean that theyre immature LOL






being a bitch sure is fun
(tbh i did this for the lols (hawk can confirm), but i got more out of it than i imagined LOL)

 

[turntaker]

how about no

just cause i'm the sikkest kunt

it ain't your game, so i play it how i want x


lost it at name-calling tbh

i do care about u wtf r u on about bb

also, just because people dont bother to argue it does not mean that theyre immature LOL






being a bitch sure is fun
(tbh i did this for the lols (hawk can confirm), but i got more out of it than i imagined LOL)

How about you stop being rude. Ok?

 

[dangerouss]

How about you stop being rude. Ok?

nah i'm good

 

[turntaker]

nah i'm good

Uwot m9

 

[turntaker]

nah i'm good

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[turntaker]

Reported you to the administrator huehueheu