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black commit much more violent crime than any other race and much much more interracial crime than any other race

but im going to say that black suffer crushing racism because my white friend didn't get arrested by police and i personally think that it would have been different if he had been black

nice one
and how do you know this? show us some evidence/stats please if you're right.
 

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and how do you know this? show us some evidence/stats please if you're right.
In America if you're black you're more likely to be killed by another black dude than any other race.

Most of it is due to gang violence and lot of social constraints where its harder for black kids to get a proper job so they have practically no choice but to turn to a life of crime and violence. The only way out is either join the gang or the military. Military is a good way out for inner city at risk youths.

Sylvia: why shouldn't have my friend been arrested? everyone should have been treated equally in the eyes of the law, the statie could have at least taken him to the station for questioning or what not and confiscated his firearm.
 

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Another anecdote from race

My hispanic friend who served couple of tours in Iraq with 1st Cavalry got pulled over in LA for practically no reason at all. They said he was a "suspected gang member" as their probable cause, he showed his military ID then they tried to pin him for fraudulent ID with the patrolman stating "i don't believe the army would let someone like you in it." got arrested in the end for "resisting arrest" without any other charges. Took it to court to get the charges dropped and the cop just got a warning. If he had a loaded gun in his car like my other buddy, you can bet your ass he would've seen a couple of years in jail.
 

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Another anecdote from race

My hispanic friend who served couple of tours in Iraq with 1st Cavalry got pulled over in LA for practically no reason at all. They said he was a "suspected gang member" as their probable cause, he showed his military ID then they tried to pin him for fraudulent ID with the patrolman stating "i don't believe the army would let someone like you in it." got arrested in the end for "resisting arrest" without any other charges. Took it to court to get the charges dropped and the cop just got a warning. If he had a loaded gun in his car like my other buddy, you can bet your ass he would've seen a couple of years in jail.


assuming this is all true

by this logic males as a sex are oppressed by the police too
 
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In America if you're black you're more likely to be killed by another black dude than any other race.
Even black people hate black people.

so they have practically no choice but to turn to a life of crime and violence.


Sylvia: why shouldn't have my friend been arrested? everyone should have been treated equally in the eyes of the law, the statie could have at least taken him to the station for questioning or what not and confiscated his firearm.
Funny that you just criticized someone's reading comprehension when I never actually said nor implied that he shouldn't have been arrested.
 

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Even black people hate black people.







Funny that you just criticized someone's reading comprehension when I never actually said nor implied that he shouldn't have been arrested.
Haven't you seen the name study? Black names vs white names, same fucking resume over 5000 applications black dudes were 30% worst off in terms of getting a job, just because they had a more "ebonic."

You have to admit there are HUGE amounts of social disadvantages of being born black in the USA. Shit if you were a nigerian immigrant to America you're statistically better off than ANY other racial group in terms of getting into uni and jobs and what not.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/black_immigrants_an_invisible.html
 

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LAPD are notorious for racial discrimination.
all police are notorious for anti-male discrimination

Haven't you seen the name study? Black names vs white names, same fucking resume over 5000 applications black dudes were 30% worst off in terms of getting a job, just because they had a more "ebonic."
First off, this discrimination may well be justified based on the basis of prior experience with black employees i.e. its probably in part black people's fault.

Secondly, just because its harder to get a job it doesn't mean that things are absolutely bad. The black unemployment rate is around 11% (and would be lower except that blacks are less likely to stop looking for work than whites which artificially boosts their unemployment rate) compared to whites at around 5%. So it's tough but not
exactly an oppressed underclass or something.

Blacks actually had lower unemployment than whites during segregatoin which should tell you a bit about the role of 'discrimination' in their employment.


Third, america has food stamps. Nobody's starving for want of work.

You have to admit there are HUGE amounts of social disadvantages of being born black in the USA. Shit if you were a nigerian immigrant to America you're statistically better off than ANY other racial group in terms of getting into uni and jobs and what not.
It's easier for african americans to get into college than whites.
 

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all police are notorious for anti-male discrimination



First off, this discrimination may well be justified based on the basis of prior experience with black employees i.e. its probably in part black people's fault.

Secondly, just because its harder to get a job it doesn't mean that things are absolutely bad. The black unemployment rate is around 11% (and would be lower except that blacks are less likely to stop looking for work than whites which artificially boosts their unemployment rate) compared to whites at around 5%. So it's tough but not
exactly an oppressed underclass or something.

Blacks actually had lower unemployment than whites during segregatoin which should tell you a bit about the role of 'discrimination' in their employment.


Third, america has food stamps. Nobody's starving for want of work.



It's easier for african americans to get into college than whites.
Writing in The Guardian, Jana Kasperkevic points to a compelling theory advanced by Valerie Wilson at the Economic Policy Institute. Black unemployment is high, Wilson suggests, not only because black joblessness is high (for reasons well documented in Ta-Nehisi Coates's recent Atlantic cover story), but because black people are more resilient when it comes to sticking to their job search.

The key to understanding Wilson's point is knowing that unemployment doesn't measure the number of people who are, well, "unemployed" in a conventional sense of the word—without a job. What the unemployment rate measures is how many people are actively looking for work. If someone gives up on his or her search, he or she is no longer counted as unemployed. In May, Kasperkevic writes, "there were over seven million Americans who want a job but were not counted as part of the labor force."
http://www.theatlantic.com/business...s-the-black-unemployment-rate-so-high/372667/

Seems like blacks are spending much more effort in finding a job than giving up compared to whites.
 

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yeah okay good job repeating what I said and ignoring all the other stuff
 

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btw that figure looks at blacks who lose work and keep looking

it doesn't take into account the blacks that could never be arsed in the first place
 

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btw that figure looks at blacks who lose work and keep looking

it doesn't take into account the blacks that could never be arsed in the first place
ok white power bill.
 

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