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haha thanks :) i suggest you debadge your car; it's surprisingly funny when people assume you've got a bodykit + wing + spoiler on a normal spec car.
I'll just get a stock STI or even normal WRX, probably second hand too from second gen (I can't afford too much even in two years time haha). Might even take off the STI badges too.

Heck, best thing would be a Liberty 2.5GT for going undercover, but there is already a Liberty in the family (technically two before the name change).

Need the WRX for travel and as an everyday car though <3

So, if I do hold off getting a second hand one, might just get one later as new. Still would serve me justice for everyday driving and long distance driving.
 

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Long distance driving in a performance car is not that fun. Yes it's able to be lived with but you miss out on so much.

After doing medium distance (200km) in my Civic and Evo, and then doing medium-long distance (400km) in my Evo and Benz. and then long distance (900km) in my Benz as well as a heavily modified 3 series, and a stock 7 series and S500, I can definitely see a HUGE difference between the lot both for driver and passenger.

Whilst young you think the drone is nice- it is, unless you're trying to sleep or have been driving at same rpm (as you would on long distance driving)... it's similar to an airplane where you can hear the engines whirring which can cause headaches. Bucket seats are also not that comfortable if you're driving for hours and your back/butt can get sore- and if you want to pull over side of road and nap, most bucket seats have the horrible knob to twist (if any) to recline rather than the lever or an electric switch. That, and fuel consumption in the Evo driving to Port Macquarie was not as good as I expected (still above 10L/100km despite being on cruise control). This experience was quite consistent with the heavily modified 3 series with Shrek mirrors (making it hard to change lanes in the rain).

I compare that to my C250 which is just a dream to do long distance driving in as it's just comfy, easy to drive, has lots of creature comfort (radar cruise control, automatic dipping/turning/etc xenons, good satnav, comfy seats which can recline if you want to nap on side of road). Oh, and driving at 3am, the missus was able to sleep on the drive to Melbourne as there was no drone. Averaged 4L/100km too (love turbo diesel).

Ultimately though the 7 series and S500 were the best for long distance driving. Tackles speeds with total ease (effortless really), supremely quiet inside, back massagers in the seats and the rear seats have recline, etc... they're perfect.

All in all, tuner cars are not very good for long distance driving lol.
 

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Long distance driving in a performance car is not that fun. Yes it's able to be lived with but you miss out on so much.

After doing medium distance (200km) in my Civic and Evo, and then doing medium-long distance (400km) in my Evo and Benz. and then long distance (900km) in my Benz as well as a heavily modified 3 series, and a stock 7 series and S500, I can definitely see a HUGE difference between the lot both for driver and passenger.

Whilst young you think the drone is nice- it is, unless you're trying to sleep or have been driving at same rpm (as you would on long distance driving)... it's similar to an airplane where you can hear the engines whirring which can cause headaches. Bucket seats are also not that comfortable if you're driving for hours and your back/butt can get sore- and if you want to pull over side of road and nap, most bucket seats have the horrible knob to twist (if any) to recline rather than the lever or an electric switch. That, and fuel consumption in the Evo driving to Port Macquarie was not as good as I expected (still above 10L/100km despite being on cruise control). This experience was quite consistent with the heavily modified 3 series with Shrek mirrors (making it hard to change lanes in the rain).

I compare that to my C250 which is just a dream to do long distance driving in as it's just comfy, easy to drive, has lots of creature comfort (radar cruise control, automatic dipping/turning/etc xenons, good satnav, comfy seats which can recline if you want to nap on side of road). Oh, and driving at 3am, the missus was able to sleep on the drive to Melbourne as there was no drone. Averaged 4L/100km too (love turbo diesel).

Ultimately though the 7 series and S500 were the best for long distance driving. Tackles speeds with total ease (effortless really), supremely quiet inside, back massagers in the seats and the rear seats have recline, etc... they're perfect.

All in all, tuner cars are not very good for long distance driving lol.
Hmm well I probs won't have to make any trips over 500 km in one go.

I can see your point though. My original intention was to go road tripping, but not a conventional road trip type.

I was thinking more "lets give this thing a shot in a desolate place" type road trip. See how much fun you can have in a remote area. Maybe find some fun dirt trails, have a go at rally or something.

I guess, if it was long distance to go somewhere else, say through the coast, then I guess what you said just validates not wanting to drive one the whole time. That's where a station wagon comes in handy :p

May have to stick to getting it only for everyday, and somewhat weekend variety (by weekend I mean just going to a track and having a good spin).

Hmm, will have to think this through much deeper in two and a half years time. If only I wasn't so young :p
 

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You'll probably change your mind.

I wanted a Mini Cooper as my first car in year 12. Then when it came time to buy, I realised how expensive it was (my parents were paying). Was going to go for an Astra but there was a huge waiting list and then, a new Honda Civic came out (the 8th gen). And that's how I got into JDM.

That being said I always wanted an Evo during high school thanks to my cousins and Initial D.... lol.
 

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Benz depreciates slowly and retains value.

Evo depreciates bloody quick. I sold my Evo X MR for $40k (about half of what it was new) in about 2 years.
In the short run, but Evos reach a floor price since they will always be a good performance car as opposed to a short lived status symbol.

Late 90s Evos are 15-20k, late 90s C class is 3-5k.
 

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In the short run, but Evos reach a floor price since they will always be a good performance car as opposed to a short lived status symbol.

Late 90s Evos are 15-20k, late 90s C class is 3-5k.
Haha, it's hard to compare though since the Evo's from that era were hardcore performance imports as opposed to locally available models.

After looking at new C Class, I don't know if I"d get the X4 anymore. The dilemmas. I do like the iDrive system however complicated/convoluted it may be.
 

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Haha, it's hard to compare though since the Evo's from that era were hardcore performance imports as opposed to locally available models.

After looking at new C Class, I don't know if I"d get the X4 anymore. The dilemmas. I do like the iDrive system however complicated/convoluted it may be.
Yeah, that's true. The older Evos are a lot more "cult classic"-y, 7s are around the same price or lower than a 5 or 6. I still doubt an Evo 10 will drop below 20k any time soon, especially when it doesn't look like there will be an 11.
 

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When everyone gets their "weekend" cars we should go for a BoS drive :p
 

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I dislike the X line generally and the x4 is no exception, however this is even worse imo.

http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/small-passenger/bmw/2-series-active-tourer/bmw-2-series-active-tourer-2014-review-45099

Gosh that is horrible. I guess it's up against the B Class which I got as the loaner from MB a couple of times... good on them for keeping the hofmeister kink. Looks slightly more masculine than the B IMO.

As for X-cars, after driving the X6M quite a bit, I really liked it now! I thought it was ugly and pointless before too.
 

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I guess looking at what it's up against;

Mercees B200


Interior-wise though, the B200 isn't bad given it's not a new design either.


BMW interior:
 

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Their windscreens look like they have a lot of height on them in those photos.

Kinda would feel weird to drive with that (actually I can't imagine driving a convertible either myself because it would feel weird having so much vision and nothing blocking your vision off).
 

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They look like big Golfs when on air bags or coilovers and modified in a certain way.
 

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They look like big Golfs when on air bags or coilovers and modified in a certain way.
This is why station wagons are better lol.

They do their job and stick to the ground and look a lot more different and if RWD, they have their inertia right down the front near the engine, allowing it to over steer if you lose grip and throttle a bit haha.

I dare say in AWD, it takes a bit more work to get that over steer.
 

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