B Applied Finance & Commerce (Prof Accounting) (2 Viewers)

[mirin]

Hey guys,

I didn't get into Commerce at USYD/UNSW, so do you think this degree would be a better option?

Job careers prospects?
How is the degree, do you get any work during the degree, like internships etc?

Any student that is studying/have studied it, please comment.

Thanks

 

[obliviousninja]

You could do economics and then trasfer later on into commerce.

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[Drifting95]

You could do economics and then trasfer later on into commerce.

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That being said, you need to maintain a D average

 

[crazy_paki123]

Hey I do this degree (in my 2nd year). I wanted to transfer to UNSW too after 1 year, i got the average but didnt end up going, caue Macquarie is SO GOOD! The teachers are awesome forr most of the subjects and students there (the domestic ones anyway) are great and friendly. Also if u want an internship/cadetship for accounting it doesnt matter what uni you got to, even if u went to UWS but had good grades and resume theyd still interview u. However, if u want to go into Investment Banking then you should consider the transfer. Its not hard to get a D average anyway. Good luck on whatever u choose

 

[mirin]

Thanks mate for the reply. I know Macquarie is a good university for business and i actually don't mind staying at UMACQ. but is it really recommended/necessary to go to UNSW/USYD, if i wanted to pursue IB? Do you know anyone from Macquarie that have pursued it or careers similar to it?

 

[obliviousninja]

Thanks mate for the reply. I know Macquarie is a good university for business and i actually don't mind staying at UMACQ. but is it really recommended/necessary to go to UNSW/USYD, if i wanted to pursue IB? Do you know anyone from Macquarie that have pursued it or careers similar to it?

Macquarie Bank

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[Shots]

heard good things about applied finance at mac uni. I also noticed the required atar for the applied finance degree has shot up in the last couple of years. Is this degree just as good as completing a commerce degree at unsw?

 

[obliviousninja]

 

[Shots]

where did you get those stats from? And plus those stats were upto 2012.

 

[Drifting95]

where did you get those stats from? And plus those stats were upto 2012.

Wouldn't be that different, do you think macq has drastically improved in the last 2 years? The stats are from here http://myuniversity.gov.au/Universities

 

[BLIT2014]

heard good things about applied finance at mac uni. I also noticed the required atar for the applied finance degree has shot up in the last couple of years. Is this degree just as good as completing a commerce degree at unsw?

Might be due to demand increasing...

 

[randomguy777]

Well I find it strange you think MQ is good. I've graduated a long time ago and have horrible memories of it. When someone asked me some related questions this was my reply:

I've spent 6 years at macq uni and here's what i think about it.

relatively small campus
macq feels really cheap like a poor uni or like TAFE/high school.
poor facilities- not enough computers for everyone, so have to bring laptop all the time.
most of the students feel like shit when they graduate from uni. its called graduate into unemployment.
poor social life- the campus is pretty small and the way the campus is designed its hard to find a comfortable spot to socialise/ sit down and talk. Sure there is the grass area near food court and stuff but its pretty lonely there.
horrible food court-expensive food and terrible food.
There's too many asians at macq. macq has the highest percentage of international students who keep to themselves. unless you want to be with 80-90% international chinese students. macq is like UWS, poor quality students because SIBT(pay your way to get into university) allows it. im asian too but i don't like the international students there because they only keep to themselves.
the people at MQ mostly have low self esteem because they didn't make it unto usyd/unsw, including the locals.

the commerce courses there are terrible. horrible lecturers/academic staff who don't give a damn when you ask for help.

i don't suggest you to go to macq uni, there's not a single thing i like about it. you could go to campus and ask the older students what they think of it in a unbiased way.

UNSW has the nicest campus overall, really feels rich and modern like a university should be.


If you didn't know, commerce students are the most abundant. Especially at MQ it is the most popular course - Accounting/Finance double degree, everybody does that. Ever heard Arts degree were worthless? Commerce nowadays is in the same boat. About 10 years ago it was kinda okay, but now its trash. Commerce is by far the most popular course at university, so yes everyone struggles to find a job. The ones that think they've gotten something decent when in actual fact they just got a shitty job Connections and directly contacting employers is the only way to find an entry level accounting position. There aren't many that I know that found an accounting job through online applications, all of them got it through friends or by walking hand in resume etc. Truth is accounting is just a pretty girls' career. If you're good looking/well presentable enough you get hired. You learn on the job and get carried by horny men. There is not a single unattractive female working in a accounting graduate program (think big 4 accounting, pwc ernst and young . kpmg etc), That's why the industry is sad.

There's no reason to not major in accounting when doing commerce, doing otherwise is like pointless and a waste of time. So commerce is basically accounting, people aspire to become a qualified accountant CPA/CA etc.
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I will make one big post for anyone considering university. Do not be afraid to drop out or change pathways.

http://www.theage.com.au/small-busi...r-jobs-turning-light-blue-20140903-3eshc.html

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/uni-versus-trades/5742336

http://www.afr.com/p/national/unemployment_rises_among_postgraduates_oeZYjMBNwJ9CYWxG2AWeWN

http://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2014/mar/04/university-degrees-expensive-student-loan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thin...university-students-are-being-sold-a-lie.html

Why economics majors are useless

https://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/our-e...798408/is-this-australias-most-useless-degree

Accounting

http://www.afr.com/p/national/why_five_graphs_hard_to_get_graduate_7ZSjAdXdnD05pJfglUJp3I

http://www.afr.com/p/national/profe...rdest_hit_for_decision_wZkuLhIkpO43mVUby3aydP

http://www.afr.com/p/national/profe...ies_won_tell_you_about_fdAOYTu0hlQh4IR71b840I

http://www.afr.com/f/free/markets/c...grads_need_look_beyond_1PbzwuStwX0hV3zWFVytQO

http://www.afr.com/p/national/profe...duates_face_job_market_ml4M9I3CEBdkesW84JzqoJ

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/hig...nt-list-rethink/story-e6frgcjx-1226812384269#

Law:

http://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/news/law-schools-should-cut-spots-to-tackle-grad-oversu

http://tinyurl.com/nbglj2w

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jmauree...is-the-worst-career-decision-youll-ever-make/

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-shelf-stackers-degree-double-just-years.html

http://www.afr.com/p/national/work_space/so_many_grads_so_few_jobs_Jpek0adVxDszdhgp1Opg5J

http://tinyurl.com/7ggkzzr

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...time-say-experts/story-fn7j1dox-1226337218081

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/d...on-useless-degrees-students-told-8757512.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/hig...graduate-intake/story-e6frgcjx-1226858225036#

http://elitedaily.com/life/overeducated-underemployed-generation-ys-naivete-workplace/

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...gle-to-find-work/story-e6frfm9r-1226496938767

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5a6a66a0-5103-11e3-b499-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2ztGEBIaj

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-2-graduates-jobless-underemployed-140300522.html

http://gawker.com/5984328/business-professor-dont-major-in-business

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/financebiggest-waste-of-schooling

http://didactsreach.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/why-you-should-not-major-in-economics.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...-underachievers/2005/11/11/1131578240673.html