Band 6 Question (2 Viewers)

[AtlasX]

Hi, for English I think I'm sitting on a Band 6 (But I'm not too sure)
If I am sitting on a Band 6 and get a Band 5 or 4 in my next assessment, are my Band 6 chances over?

 

[Queenroot]

Do you standard or advanced?

 

[enoilgam]

Hi, for English I think I'm sitting on a Band 6 (But I'm not too sure)
If I am sitting on a Band 6 and get a Band 5 or 4 in my next assessment, are my Band 6 chances over?

This isnt really the way the system works. The actual physical mark you receive from the school doesnt indicate what your final mark will be (the marks are moderated and this moderation is dependent on the cohorts performance in the final exam). Besides, marking can vary from school to school, so it's hard to say whether your mark would have been the same if marked by HSC standards.

 

[anomalousdecay]

There is no such thing as your Band 6 chances are over until the day you get the results.

However, the performance of your cohort and your final exam performance will determine your marks for the HSC.

So if you want to maximise your chance of a Band 6, you need to get as many marks and ranks as possible in your school assessments, while also doing very well in your final HSC exam.

So my advice is to try your best throughout Year 12 for your subjects, while also referencing the tips and tricks to maximise your performance in the HSC exams so that you can maximise your band 6 chances.

 

[such_such]

There is no such thing as your Band 6 chances are over until the day you get the results.

Basically. It's not over until it's all over.

 

[AtlasX]

This isnt really the way the system works. The actual physical mark you receive from the school doesnt indicate what your final mark will be (the marks are moderated and this moderation is dependent on the cohorts performance in the final exam). Besides, marking can vary from school to school, so it's hard to say whether your mark would have been the same if marked by HSC standards.

Well I got a 72% for Studies of Religion, if I get the same mark for another assessment worth 15%, then aren't my Band 6 chances over?

 

[enoilgam]

Well I got a 72% for Studies of Religion, if I get the same mark for another assessment worth 15%, then aren't my Band 6 chances over?

It doesnt work that way - the physical amount doesnt mean much because the marks are moderated. What matters is your position in the cohort - which is a combination of your rank and the relative gaps between you and everyone else.

So, a raw internal mark of 90 does not necessarily equal a final mark of 90. It could moderate to a 98 or a 78 depending on various factors. This cannot be known until after the final exams have been completed.

 

[AtlasX]

It doesnt work that way - the physical amount doesnt mean much because the marks are moderated. What matters is your position in the cohort - which is a combination of your rank and the relative gaps between you and everyone else.

So, a raw internal mark of 90 does not necessarily equal a final mark of 90. It could moderate to a 98 or a 78 depending on various factors. This cannot be known until after the final exams have been completed.

I'm curious as to how it works then
How did you go from 98 to 78, what factors affect the mark?

 

[obliviousninja]

Well I got a 72% for Studies of Religion, if I get the same mark for another assessment worth 15%, then aren't my Band 6 chances over?

If that logic applied, wouldn't all schools set hyper easy tests so all their students get 100% or just give full marks just for the sake of it.

 

[AtlasX]

If that logic applied, wouldn't all schools set hyper easy tests so all their students get 100% or just give full marks just for the sake of it.

That assessment I got 72% was also worth 15% and the next one is worth 15%

 

[obliviousninja]

You still haven't found the plot.

 

[AtlasX]

You still haven't found the plot.

Please run me through how it works, I don't understand

 

[Queenroot]

*sigh* The BOS should really educate students about how the system works.

 

[D94]

*sigh* The BOS should really educate students about how the system works.

They do. The information on the website is sufficient. There is a representative that comes to each school at the beginning of year 11 (iirc) who explains the system. It's just many students don't care or don't listen...then a year later when they have "stuffed" up an assessment, they for some reason have the urge to understand...even though what's done is done.

The fact that there are students who know how the system works is proof that BOS does educate students, whether directly in person, or via the website.

 

[D94]

Please run me through how it works, I don't understand

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/hsc-results/moderation.html

This information is readily available.

Since many students don't understand it the first time, so to clear things up first:
- you do not receive the n'th highest mark if you are the n'th ranked student (with the exception of first and last, but they define the bounds of moderation). Your moderated mark will be n'th highest, but that's because your moderated mark is your school mark relative to the state.
- just because you are highly ranked, that doesn't mean you will get a high mark. Due to the process of moderation, it takes into account how close or far you are from your peers. Being 5% behind first will give you a better mark than being 15% behind first, yet in both cases, you are ranked the same.
- you keep your exam mark. That is your own achievement, whether good or bad, whether you are highly ranked or not.

 

[cem]

My school has only ever had one representative come to the school and she didn't speak to the students - in about 2005 or even earlier - and she explained it very badly to the staff (just pointing out that the BOS don't send a representative to schools - schools have to ask for one and if available they will come).

Now how the system works:

1. you sit a series of assessment tasks at school which result in a final mark
2. that mark (in whole numbers only) is sent to the BOS
3. you sit the HSC
4. the BOS uses the cohort's range of marks, total, mean, median etc from the HSC exam to moderate the assessment marks sent in by the school along
5. the BOS uses the original marks and gaps between marks to allocate the final moderated assessment marks to the cohort

So if the school sends in a range of marks from 60 - 70 but that cohort has a range from 80 - 90 in the exam with assessment marks between 80 - 90 but if the school sends in a range from 80 - 90 and the cohort all go badly (60 - 70) then that is the range that they will end up with and thus how a mark of 98 could end up at 78 or vice versa.

 

[D94]

My school has only ever had one representative come to the school and she didn't speak to the students - in about 2005 or even earlier - and she explained it very badly to the staff (just pointing out that the BOS don't send a representative to schools - schools have to ask for one and if available they will come).

Fair enough - but the information on the website should suffice.

 

[anomalousdecay]

(just pointing out that the BOS don't send a representative to schools - schools have to ask for one and if available they will come).

Yeah this. Our school never got one.

Fair enough - but the information on the website should suffice.

Agreed.

There was also this one video which helped me a lot and I eventually understood everything from it:

 

[strawberrye]

Hi, for English I think I'm sitting on a Band 6 (But I'm not too sure)
If I am sitting on a Band 6 and get a Band 5 or 4 in my next assessment, are my Band 6 chances over?

You really need to make sure your school's marking standards are aligned to the HSC, if they are not, even if you get an internal Band 6, it does not mean that you will get an external band 6. You need to stop worrying and hypothesising, and start concentrating on doing your best in each assessment task and maximising your potential to get a band 6!