AWFUL UMAT? Is this the end of undergraduate medicine for me? (2 Viewers)

[someth1ng]

If you really want to do MBBS and for the right reasons, you'll try it again and again until you got in (within reason).

 

[Riproot]

didnt a person on these forums get into JCU med with 94 atar and activities

yep

Louieelouiee 94.75

Forget your current UMAT.

Focus on your ATAR.

Then

=Apply for JCU

OR

=Take a gap year and do the UMAT again next year (like a whole group of med hopefuls I know).

OR

=Take medical science/ whatever other course you want, and transfer over whenever you can.
From what I've heard, rip root got into undergraduate MBBS from engineering.



There are still plenty of ways to get into undergraduate medicine.

My friend did this and got offers for UNSW, UWS, Griffith, Monash, and maybe elsewhere.

Just make sure you get a good ATAR.

I know someone that just go into med at about 27/28. The sat the UMAT twice and then sat the GAMSAT maybe 5/6 times. They didnt do it every year after graduating but kept at it, improving their score each time and finally got in at 2-3 universities this tiem.
That shows perseverance, dedication, a will to do medicine and problem solving.
If your posts here show your attitude, I cant see you ever getting into medicine and if you did, i know which doctor id rather go to

Yeah, there are people in my cohort who have tried for 5 years.

 

[iBibah]

If you really want to do MBBS and for the right reasons, you'll try it again and again until you got in (within reason).

+1

 

[mamb00]

I know someone that just go into med at about 27/28. The sat the UMAT twice and then sat the GAMSAT maybe 5/6 times. They didnt do it every year after graduating but kept at it, improving their score each time and finally got in at 2-3 universities this tiem.
That shows perseverance, dedication, a will to do medicine and problem solving.
If your posts here show your attitude, I cant see you ever getting into medicine and if you did, i know which doctor id rather go to

That's fantastic for them but.. I don't know too many compatible lifestyles that will allow for the 15+ year training/studying prior to working (assuming specialisation) beginning at age 27/28. Please don't equate 'my attitude' with my posts here regarding a test which I personally think is futile; what a dumb remark to 'know which doctor' you'd rather see. Wouldn't you rather go to the best? Or are you too high and mighty for people with conflicting attitudes..
Thanks to all for the constructive inputs.

 

[iBibah]

That's fantastic for them but.. I don't know too many compatible lifestyles that will allow for the 15+ year training/studying prior to working (assuming specialisation) beginning at age 27/28. Please don't equate 'my attitude' with my posts here regarding a test which I personally think is futile; what a dumb remark to 'know which doctor' you'd rather see. Wouldn't you rather go to the best? Or are you too high and mighty for people with conflicting attitudes..
Thanks to all for the constructive inputs.

I think he/she meant they would prefer to go to a doctor who is truly passionate about their job and was determined to make it, as opposed to someone who complained about the tests required to become a doctor.

 

[mamb00]

I think he/she meant they would prefer to go to a doctor who is truly passionate about their job and was determined to make it, as opposed to someone who complained about the tests required to become a doctor.

Maybe so, but saying something like that is just stupid when in reality if your life depended on surgery that could be performed by an amazing surgeon who always complained or a crap surgeon who loved their job etc you'd obviously choose the former. Sorry for the absurd example but my point was aimed at the pretentious side of the argument.

 

[clintmyster]

Try again. Simple. I got even lower than that the first time around. The second and third times were the same for me. Bond and JCU were my only realistic chances. Miss JCU after school and got into Bond for 2011 entry.
Focus on doing a course like med sci or advanced sci if you believe you excel despite everyone going for med. Otherwise go for a course that has good career outcomes if med doesn't eventuate like Pharmacy, Radiography, Nursing etc. If you do have to do GAMSAT, the previous degree will really help you

 

[koreafantasy]

ouch man i feel your pain. i got 61 percentile. i feel like a fucking monkey. a few ppl were giving me shit at school for it. those fuckers who got 100% and go brag about it -_-

 

[Medman]

That's fantastic for them but.. I don't know too many compatible lifestyles that will allow for the 15+ year training/studying prior to working (assuming specialisation) beginning at age 27/28. Please don't equate 'my attitude' with my posts here regarding a test which I personally think is futile; what a dumb remark to 'know which doctor' you'd rather see. Wouldn't you rather go to the best? Or are you too high and mighty for people with conflicting attitudes..
Thanks to all for the constructive inputs.

My friend is 35 and he's doing medicine. You just need a great wife and if you don't, it will be hard but not impossible. Don't think about specialisation when you aren't even in medicine. That is a totally different ball game and it will continue to change overtime. You will soon discover medicine doesn't have the job security it had in the past, doctors are finding it hard to get jobs after specialisation training in urban areas.

 

[soloooooo]

That's fantastic for them but.. I don't know too many compatible lifestyles that will allow for the 15+ year training/studying prior to working (assuming specialisation) beginning at age 27/28. Please don't equate 'my attitude' with my posts here regarding a test which I personally think is futile; what a dumb remark to 'know which doctor' you'd rather see. Wouldn't you rather go to the best? Or are you too high and mighty for people with conflicting attitudes..
Thanks to all for the constructive inputs.

You don't have to specialise.

 

[soloooooo]

My friend is 35 and he's doing medicine. You just need a great wife and if you don't, it will be hard but not impossible. Don't think about specialisation when you aren't even in medicine. That is a totally different ball game and it will continue to change overtime. You will soon discover medicine doesn't have the job security it had in the past, doctors are finding it hard to get jobs after specialisation training in urban areas.

Go rural then. If you're not willing to do that then you shouldn't have studied med.

 

[clintmyster]

My friend is 35 and he's doing medicine. You just need a great wife and if you don't, it will be hard but not impossible. Don't think about specialisation when you aren't even in medicine. That is a totally different ball game and it will continue to change overtime. You will soon discover medicine doesn't have the job security it had in the past, doctors are finding it hard to get jobs after specialisation training in urban areas.

That's pretty exaggerated. Yes there are training hurdles along the way but job security is much much higher than other jobs out there. Yes, you can go rural but if you decide to be do Obs and Gynae and then decide to be a urogynaecologist that only focuses on urinary incontinece well yes, it will be hard at first but there will definitely be a job for you in private practice.

 

[Medman]

That's pretty exaggerated. Yes there are training hurdles along the way but job security is much much higher than other jobs out there. Yes, you can go rural but if you decide to be do Obs and Gynae and then decide to be a urogynaecologist that only focuses on urinary incontinece well yes, it will be hard at first but there will definitely be a job for you in private practice.

I never said there will be no jobs and I didn't say it wasn't easier than other jobs. I'm saying in comparison to the past, it is pretty hard to land a public staff specialist position nowadays in an urban hospital. You can go rural or you can go private or you can do some research to boost your CV. There are still options but the road is long and arduous.

 

[mamb00]

ouch man i feel your pain. i got 61 percentile. i feel like a fucking monkey. a few ppl were giving me shit at school for it. those fuckers who got 100% and go brag about it -_-

You should feel like a monkey if you're letting a single test impact your opinion of yourself, i'm just pissed off because its stopping me from doing what I want to do at the moment.

 

[Medman]

You should feel like a monkey if you're letting a single test impact your opinion of yourself, i'm just pissed off because its stopping me from doing what I want to do at the moment.

Getting 100% doesn't mean you'll get in. If they brag about it, it just shows lack of humility which is a quality they look for in the interview. Just understand doing medicine means committing up to 20 years of your life studying and having a pretty poor social life if you pick a specialty other than GP. It will be tough as hell but if you want it that bad, go for it.

 

[koreafantasy]

Btw i dont think your result can get an interview offer, the threshold i heard is ~70th percentile (mainstream unis). I dont know about small ones like bond, jcu, griffith etc. But if you do get one, make sure you focus your answers around passion, knowledge of career, and show lots of sympathy and empathy. Don't mention anything academic unless they ask you specifically, and if they do, only give short phrased answers to show that you're not showing off your academic skill, but rather your passion and desire to help people. if you are in it for the money/social status though, for the love of god dont do med. even if you do get in youll drop out within the first 2 years and you wasted your time.