• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

2013 Federal election (2 Viewers)

2013 Federal Election: 2PP Voting Intention

  • Liberal / National Coalition

    Votes: 101 50.0%
  • Australian Labor Party

    Votes: 101 50.0%

  • Total voters
    202

funkshen

dvds didnt exist in 1991
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
2,137
Location
butt
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
you'll vote sex party if you know what's good for you
 

ADrew

Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2011
Messages
292
Location
sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
1998
Uni Grad
2004
So what? There's more than one person in the Liberal party and there are just also bigots on the other side of the Parliament. Some people agree with him, because the Libs do have some thought out policies and reasonings for their positions. Don't simply dismiss people who vote for the Liberal party as either being bigots by association or somehow too stupid to understand what's best for them.

Besides, a lot of people see that Labor is worse than this. What does that tell you?

N.B: I am not voting for the Liberals (in the Senate) nor do I have any affiliation to them
Dont get me wrong im not preferencing Labour first either, they're just as fucked.
 

sirable1

Active Member
Joined
Jan 9, 2012
Messages
709
Location
Sydney, Australia
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Uni Grad
2016
Back in the recent months, the Gillard Government made some cuts to the higher education sector - areas such as the student startup scholarship in making it a loan rather than a payment from the government. The initiative starts on 1 January 2014 then onwards. However back in the months, I've heard if the Liberal party wins this election, they are going to cut the scholarship completely. I don't follow political issue too much, can anyone clarify this?
 

Sathius005

Active Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2007
Messages
716
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2008
Uni Grad
2018
I congratulate Kevin Rudd in leading the Labor party to a smaller defeat than would have been the case if Julia Gillard was Prime Minister of Australia. I think Kevin Rudd's Labor will lose 20 seats. I think this is a great result for the ALP. Labor under Julia Gillard would have lost a minimum of 40 seats. Julia Gillard was toxic for Labor in 2013. Labor's primary vote went down to its lowest vote in 100 years.
 

Lolsmith

kill all boomers
Joined
Dec 4, 2009
Messages
4,570
Location
Forever UNSW
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
So Mirabella is down on votes in her seat of Indi. I'd be pretty happy to see her lose it.
 

Rafy

Retired
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
10,719
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
Uni Grad
2008
Australian Sports Party looking like it'll get a Senator with just 1908 votes.

Reform is needed, especially if a double dissolution on the cards. The quota is half in a DD so you'll see even more of these micro parties elected on very few votes.

Get rid of group tickets and move to above the line OPV similar to the NSW Legislative Council system.
 
Last edited:

Lolsmith

kill all boomers
Joined
Dec 4, 2009
Messages
4,570
Location
Forever UNSW
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
Australian Sports Party looking like it'll get a Senator with just 1908 votes.

Reform is needed, especially if a double dissolution on the cards. The quota is half in a DD so you'll see even more of these micro parties elected on very few votes.

Get rid of group tickets and move to above the line OPV similar to the NSW Legislative Council system.
Nah. The more minor parties that get through the better. Is the reason you really care about this is because it stopped your mate Tones from getting a clear majority in the Senate?
 

Rafy

Retired
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
10,719
Gender
Female
HSC
2005
Uni Grad
2008
Nah. The more minor parties that get through the better. Is the reason you really care about this is because it stopped your mate Tones from getting a clear majority in the Senate?
No, I agree more minor parties the better. I wouldn't want a coalition senate majority, but come on how is somebody getting elected with such a small vote a good thing?

The current system does not ensure the will of the people is reflected. Those elected are determined by back room preference deals and minor parties gaming the system.

The only way a voter can control their preferences is to number 110 boxes which is frankly ridiculous. The system does need reforming to make it easier for voters to allocate their own preferences and I think the NSW LC system is a pretty good model to do this.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 2)

Top