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Hi,
I recently got offered a place at Usyd for arts. However, I hear that a BA is useless and you won't get employed/get a low pay rate upon graduation- even at Usyd which supposingly has one of the best arts faculty. I am planning on majoring in economics/pyschology.

Is it true I won't get work?
 

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It depends on what you major in rather than what degree you do.

Economics/Psych shouldn't be too difficult to find work for.
 

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Just some food for thought, if you are planning on majoring in Psychology and it's not for fun be sure that the course is accredited or if you want to become a registered psychologist you are going to have do some kind of post grad course. I looked into it last week for someone at a different uni (UoN) and it seems that the accrediting body only recognises courses at least 4 years long regardless of the uni and afaik arts is a 3 year course.
 
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I went to a Psych lecture..You can only become an actual psychologist if you do HONOURS and then post-honours training. You can't become a psychologist with a 3 year course.
 

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With Psychology, honours is actually compulsory. Also, I believe you have to major in Psychology by itself - I could be wrong because that was the case for BSc and I'm assuming it's the same for BA.
 

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With Psychology, honours is actually compulsory. Also, I believe you have to major in Psychology by itself - I could be wrong because that was the case for BSc and I'm assuming it's the same for BA.
Tbh if all of that is true i dont know why anyone would bother majoring in Psychology in a BSc over doing a Bachelor of Psychology.
 

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Wow ok you guys don't really know what you're on about.

You can get a career with a psych degree. There are all sorts of options like Human Resources, PR, management, counselling, health psychology, etc and that's just with a three year, undergraduate BA qualification. These are degrees that don't specify a psych degree is required, but having completed a psych major will hold you in good stead.

If you want to do an accredited course, this means you need to do honours, and some specific subjects (at USyd it's Abnormal Psych in third year). To get into honours, you also need to have done both second and third year stats courses, and achieved a distinction average overall.

Doing an accredited course will mean you can go on to do research and such, OR you can pursue things like clinical psych which requires another 2-3 years of study or several years supervised work in the clinical field.

You can ABSOLUTELY do a double major, even if you want to major in psych and go on to do an honours year in psych. The only problem is if the requirements of third year subjects don't fit with the requirements of third year economics. Or, if you do B Psych (different to a BA), then you have to do 30 credits of psych in third year to meet the requirements, whereas normally it's only 24 credits.
 

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Wow ok you guys don't really know what you're on about.

You can get a career with a psych degree. There are all sorts of options like Human Resources, PR, management, counselling, health psychology, etc and that's just with a three year, undergraduate BA qualification.

If you want to do an accredited course, this means you need to do honours, and some specific subjects (at USyd it's Abnormal Psych in third year). To get into honours, you also need to have done both second and third year stats courses, and achieved a distinction average overall.

Doing an accredited course will mean you can go on to do research and such, OR you can pursue things like clinical psych which requires another 2-3 years of study or several years supervised work in the clinical field.

You can ABSOLUTELY do a double major, even if you want to major in psych and go on to do an honours year in psych. The only problem is if the requirements of third year subjects don't fit with the requirements of third year economics. Or, if you do B Psych (different to a BA), then you have to do 30 credits of psych in third year to meet the requirements, whereas normally it's only 24 credits.
Great point.

Some of the things you learn in Psych can be applied to other fields very easily.
 

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Tbh if all of that is true i dont know why anyone would bother majoring in Psychology in a BSc over doing a Bachelor of Psychology.
compulsory subjects, have to complete 5 psych subjects in third year instead of 4, and the requirement of a D average or you get kicked out.
 

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With Psychology, cut-off for Sydney is 97 so you'd be competing against them..just think about the competition, so in the work force, there'll be competition over the fact that someone in BSci graduated with a credit vs. someone in BPsych with HDs
 

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If you graduate in the B. Arts majoring in psychology, that would be the same as graduating with a B. Psychology. In both cases, whether you get a job really depends on what you want to do with your degree. E.g. Becoming a registered clinical psychologist / forensic psychologist etc. would require you to do honours (as already mentioned by others) followed by 2-3 years of practice or completing your masters at uni.

More information: http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/future_students/becoming_reg_psychologist.shtml
 
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