Presidential Election (4 Viewers)

[funkshen]

Re: First Presidential Debate

Come on funkshen you can't really sit there and tell me that you think Obama will lose, I just don't see it happening

duh

 

[Riproot]

Re: First Presidential Debate

I'm really not but, Mitt Romney is the most progressive Republican candidate in living memory, the polls all suggest a virtual dead heat of an election, all in all there really isn't much cause to be decisive.

So you are bias to the fence...?

 

[SylviaB]

 

[ClassicFine]

LOL half the ppl here don't know whats going on. Obama's certainly won, presidency is not based on popular vote it is based on the electoral college ask Al Gore and Bush. Obama holds all the swing states he will win with 290 seats 314 if he gets Florida. Election's over I've called it.

 

[soloooooo]

It amazes me that some people think it is racist to not re-elect (or vote for) Obama...

 

[SylviaB]

LOL half the ppl here don't know whats going on. Obama's certainly won, presidency is not based on popular vote it is based on the electoral college ask Al Gore and Bush. Obama holds all the swing states he will win with 290 seats 314 if he gets Florida. Election's over I've called it.

how does I electoral college

 

[Absolutezero]

how does I electoral college

You need to electoral high school first

 

[soloooooo]

You need to electoral high school first

High school is not enough. Holding a bachelors should be a requirement to vote.

 

[Absolutezero]

High school is not enough. Holding a bachelors should be a requirement to vote.

Bachelor is not enough. Holding a doctorate should be a requirement to vote.

 

[townie]

High school is not enough. Holding a bachelors should be a requirement to vote.

Nope.

 

[soloooooo]

Bachelor is not enough. Holding a doctorate should be a requirement to vote.

The trouble with that though is not many people hold those. While in contrast a much greater number hold bachelor degrees (and higher).

Plus, you would need candidates to have that minimum education requirement etc. Most politicians do hold bachelor degrees.

Nope.

I mean any sort of bachelors, including an Arts degree even etc. It would basically help ensure that people are
a) mature enough to vote
b) more often than not of the higher earning capacity of workers who pay more tax (and these are the people that should get a larger say as to how the country is run)

Feel free to move this interesting discussion to another thread if it is getting too off topic in this one

 

[townie]

I think the trouble is actually that is disenfranchises people but w/e

 

[soloooooo]

Let's see how fast Solo backpedals when it realizes that tertiary graduates have a statistical bias toward socialist governments.

realises*

Well if that is what the people want, then so be it. [I would be cautious of those stats though personally]

 

[townie]

The trouble with that though is not many people hold those. While in contrast a much greater number hold bachelor degrees (and higher).

Plus, you would need candidates to have that minimum education requirement etc. Most politicians do hold bachelor degrees.



I mean any sort of bachelors, including an Arts degree even etc. It would basically help ensure that people are
a) mature enough to vote
b) more often than not of the higher earning capacity of workers who pay more tax (and these are the people that should get a larger say as to how the country is run)

Feel free to move this interesting discussion to another thread if it is getting too off topic in this one

a) Bachelors degree =/= maturity. You're one of the most immature people I know and you're a phD candidate.

B) by this logic the requirement should be those who pay tax, regardless of educational status

 

[soloooooo]

B) by this logic the requirement should be those who pay tax, regardless of educational status

Well the vote could be weighted in some form based upon the amount of tax a person pays (obviously capped at a maximum weight [100K tax or something etc] so you don't then have Gina Rhinehart running the country etc).

Or perhaps the weighting could be based upon a number of factors such as age, education level, average tax paid over last 5 years, + a multitude of other factors etc.

 

[townie]

Well the vote could be weighted in some form based upon the amount of tax a person pays (obviously capped at a maximum weight [100K tax or something etc] so you don't then have Gina Rhinehart running the country etc).

Or perhaps the weighting could be based upon a number of factors such as age, education level, average tax paid over last 5 years, + a multitude of other factors etc.

Or it could just be the system of one vote, one value a principle that has served is well for 110 years

 

[alstah]

Looks tight! We might have another Bush v. Gore on our hands!

 

[SylviaB]

Re: First Presidential Debate

you kidding? he came into office after america had just had two terms of who is considered the worst president post world war II.
he inherited a lot of problems that he first had to fix and he fixed them pretty well, especially the economy.

HE did an atrocious job. The economy is not "fixed" at all.

Though tell me, do you really think he responded in a radically different way than the "worst president since WW2" would have? Of course not.

he ran into some problems with the economy in recent times. but anyone who's done economics in HS or uni would know that you are going to have contractions and expansions occuring. its nearly impossible to have perfect employment levels etc at all times.

there's a huge fucking difference between "perfect" (full?) employment, and a real unemployment rate of around 22%

 

[niloony]

Looks tight! We might have another Bush v. Gore on our hands!

The Odds have
Democrats 1.22
Republicans 4.00

Been basically like that since Sandy so it's pretty much over unless something big happens.

 

[kaz1]

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