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I was wondering if you guys could check if there was anything 'wrong' with my format because during trials, apparently I set up my induction questions poorly and as a result I only got 2 out of a potential 4. =/
 

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uh I thought the last sentence had to be the longer version?
 

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uh i'm not a genius at mx1 but your working out looks fine...
"and thus if the result is true for n=k it follows that it is true for n=k+1"
"since hte statement is true for n=2, the it is true for n=3 and for n=4, and so on for all positive integer values of n."
 

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uh i'm not a genius at mx1 but your working out looks fine...
"and thus if the result is true for n=k it follows that it is true for n=k+1"
"since hte statement is true for n=2, the it is true for n=3 and for n=4, and so on for all positive integer values of n."
Can someone verify? =/
 

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I was wondering if you guys could check if there was anything 'wrong' with my format because during trials, apparently I set up my induction questions poorly and as a result I only got 2 out of a potential 4. =/
I would've done what you did, apart from state that k>=1, therefore 21k - 4 >0, and since 4^k etc >0, LHS is > 0. You seemed to ignore the -4 part :/
 

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I would've done what you did, apart from state that k>=1, therefore 21k - 4 >0, and since 4^k etc >0, LHS is > 0. You seemed to ignore the -4 part :/
What? If you mean the line before my "LHS > 21k" then no I haven't, because we have already proven that the things in the bracket are greater than 1 in the 'verify for n=2' segment.
 

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What? If you mean the line before my "LHS > 21k" then no I haven't, because we have already proven that the things in the bracket are greater than 1 in the 'verify for n=2' segment.
Did you? All I see is that you proved that it equals 1 when k=2, not that it is greater than one for all values of k (or n). Your assumption was that the things within the brackets were greater than zero

Maybe I'm missing something, running on little sleep :)
 

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Did you? All I see is that you proved that it equals 1 when k=2, not that it is greater than one for all values of k (or n). Your assumption was that the things within the brackets were greater than zero

Maybe I'm missing something, running on little sleep :)
just wondering why is k>=1?

is it because n=k+1 and n>=2?
 

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do we need to know simpson's rule and trapezoidal rule??
 

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you should learn a.p. and g.p., dunno about simpson's and trapezoidal..
 

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Will continue to update this thread with questions throughout the night IF I have to query something. So stay tuned. Thank you.
 

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@Shadow - you do NOT have to write that long conclusion for induction. In the words of my maths teacher, you do "not get marks for a memorised sentence".

It's a misconception that you NEED to write the statement. While there's nothing wrong with the statement, it's unnecessary.
 

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@Shadow - you do NOT have to write that long conclusion for induction. In the words of my maths teacher, you do "not get marks for a memorised sentence".

It's a misconception that you NEED to write the statement. While there's nothing wrong with the statement, it's unnecessary.
This
 

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