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(This is an example of a smooth function which is zero and has all derivatives zero at a certain point, but is NOT the zero function.)
At x=0, both functions are equal to 0.

Now we show that the derivatives are also equal as the functions approach x=0.

It is trivial that the derivative of 0 is 0 as x approaches 0.

Now

As x approaches 0, the 'e' will dominate the 'x'. So by considering the 'e' as x approaches 0:



So the functions have equal derivatives as x approaches 0.

Hence the piece-wise function is differentiable as x=0 with the derivative being 0. It then follows that it must be 'k' times differentiable at x=0 with the k'th derivative = 0 for each non-negative integer 'k'.
 

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You have certainly given a correct argument for why f'(0)=0. It is not obvious though why EVERY derivative of f vanishes at x=0.
 

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Here's a question I thought of a while ago whilst I was trying to make a ramp with a sheet of cardboard and a tissue box:



 

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I have finally found a solution to the question carrot posted, well here we go:

Take the triangle in Carrot's diagram, within respect to theta:



Where y is the vertical side, and x is the horizontal side. Now lets take 3 points:



Lets create a linear function which satisfies the x and y-intercepts:



But function goes through (1,1)



Now by use of quadratic formula



Complete (checked with Carrotsticks)

Now for my question:

The sum of the perimeter of a circle and square is k, where k is some constant. Prove that the sum of their areas is least when the side of square is double the radius of the circle.
 
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Edit: Accidental post.
 
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The sum of the perimeter of a circle and square is k, where k is some constant. Prove that the sum of their areas is least when the side of square is double the radius of the circle.

Difficulty: Moderate

Lets revive this thread
 

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What are the chances this years 3U hsc exam will have harder 2U questions (such as financial repayments etc/sine+cosine rule)?

I've notice they often appear in the 1990s exams, but very rare in the 2000s papers.
 

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Well you can find an observed probability by going through the past papers and making a tally yourself.
 
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The sum of the perimeter of a circle and square is k, where k is some constant. Prove that the sum of their areas is least when the side of square is double the radius of the circle.

Difficulty: Moderate

Lets revive this thread
cbb to align the equal signs, sorry!

 
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Here is a neat question that I just made (and solved, so it is solvable)
It is a 5 part question, so here we go:

Difficulty: Easy -> Hard












Diagram of the Question.

 
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i)

ii)

iii)

iv)

Not sure about v)
 
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i)

ii)

iii)

iv)

Not sure about v)

Correct! Except for part v. Use the fact that theta is the inclined angle to x-axis and circle properties to find theta such that it is
true (thats how I did it)
 
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For part v.. you equated the equations of the tangent and normal?


From skimming, would you not differentiate the equations and solve for theta in the expression m_1 m_2 = -1? That was my first thought. That might not work but... you know how you always think of one way to solve it at the very beginning - which might be right or wrong.
 
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I'm still kinda not understanding v.

Are you asking when does (a) normal through Q 'equal' or 'is' the tangent at P?
 

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It is asking for what values of theta does it make the normal at Q a tangent to the circle
 

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what unanswered questions are there? im ready to rock for half an hour.
 

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Ah no one answered v which made the thread die, asianese answered the other ones but you can do them, its a good excercise I reckon :)
 

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