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^do private school get given mor money than public ones?
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Asians know how to rote learn and accelerate courses to stay ahead. Generalizations are great aren't they, be quiet. There is no sort of inequitable rights given to private schools. SOME are given money due to their support of political campaigns. However, it's complete bullshit to say that they receive more money than a resource lacking state school.
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Okay, okay, cool.
Apart from that being incorrect and having nothing to do with what we're talking about, I guess you statements are valid. (no they aren't)
Nope.
Shown on the "my school" or whatever it was website that showed NAPLAN results for school was also the government funding they received.
The povo public school down the road from me got a lot more than my private, catholic school.
Yep. Asians should be banned from doing the HSC!!1! (sarcasm)
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Private schools get more money from the federal government than public schools.
Private schools, for all those years, were not meant to be having that kind of funding in the first place. With the Howard Government, that retard Dr Kemp, changed all that. The funding was supposed to make Private Schools more affordable. Did they? Their fees kept going up well above CPI.
You cannot say State Schools receive more funding than Private. Private schools were not supposed to receive any such funding in the 1st place.
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Ugh.
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These dummies are right though, state schools do generally get more funding than private schools, even once tuition and government funding are included.
also everyone itt saying she is being petty/dumb for bringing this up now lol she probably started legal procedings in 2008 are you all simple or what
Honnestly, everyone here who has immediately gone "ZOMFGWTFGTFO She got 99.95 no way she needs disability provisions", you are naive twats who has not even stopped to consider the main issue here.
Yes, this chick sounds like a whiny bitch, but some of you are starting to as well. Honestly if i was in her position i would be pretty happy with that result, but I am also in a similar situation to her with the disability provisions.
For the sake of my own privacy I will not be disclosing the details of my conditions (both physical and neurological) but they seriously limit my capacity to display my full potential within a timed exam. Both writing for periods of time longer than about 20 minutes and writing 'quickly' is extremely difficult for me, and 'high executive processing' as the specialists call it, takes longer than average for me (put simply, that's things like quickly organizing your thoughts when confronted with, for example, the section 3 AOS question or any of the module questions) making exams such as English Advanced almost impossible for me to achieve in. Where I usually come close to the top of the year (500 students, approx 200 in ENA course) in hand-in assessments in which I am not limited by my ability to write fast or quickly process an unseen question, my time-based exams place me in the bottom 25%.
Yet i still manage to achieve top of the year in Chemistry with a course mark (so far) of 95% and the top 5% in my other sciences & subjects (Bio, physics, Maths, MX1).
Disability provisions is not about 'passing' or 'going good', its about helping the student, who, for some reason, is inhibited from achieving their full potential.
For someone with, lets go the most cliched example, down syndrome, who's cognitive functioning is extremely limited, this potential might be 20%, where as if they could not have their disability provisions, they obviously might not even get to this.
For a much more capable student like myself, this potential might be far above what most people might be aiming for, and to others it may seem ridiculous for me to be in disability provisions, and without them I would still get a decent Atar, nothing special, maybe 70-75, but with them I can get much better, maybe 90+ (this might be a crappy mark to some of you, but that's irrelevant).
So I have applied for Disability provisions (rest time, 5min /half hour) which will greatly improve my capacity to achieve my potential (yeah this is starting to sound repetitive, handle it) but in lodging an application i had to (as did all other applicants) undergo a special written examination without any provisions, from which, along with medical reports, assessments, teacher comments etc, my grant will be approved or denied. They're not easy to get. But is it fair to dismiss them simply because they seem smart enough already? (I'm starting to sound like a bigot :S blah blah blah my potential xD)
So yeah, this chick is a whinny bitch and its far too late for her to be kicking up a fuss,
but I ask you, is it fair for someone to be restricted from achieving their potential, simply because they would go alright anyway?
Yes, this chick sounds like a whiny bitch, but some of you are starting to as well. Honestly if i was in her position i would be pretty happy with that result, but I am also in a similar situation to her with the disability provisions.
For the sake of my own privacy I will not be disclosing the details of my conditions (both physical and neurological) but they seriously limit my capacity to display my full potential within a timed exam. Both writing for periods of time longer than about 20 minutes and writing 'quickly' is extremely difficult for me, and 'high executive processing' as the specialists call it, takes longer than average for me (put simply, that's things like quickly organizing your thoughts when confronted with, for example, the section 3 AOS question or any of the module questions) making exams such as English Advanced almost impossible for me to achieve in. Where I usually come close to the top of the year (500 students, approx 200 in ENA course) in hand-in assessments in which I am not limited by my ability to write fast or quickly process an unseen question, my time-based exams place me in the bottom 25%.
Yet i still manage to achieve top of the year in Chemistry with a course mark (so far) of 95% and the top 5% in my other sciences & subjects (Bio, physics, Maths, MX1).
Disability provisions is not about 'passing' or 'going good', its about helping the student, who, for some reason, is inhibited from achieving their full potential.
For someone with, lets go the most cliched example, down syndrome, who's cognitive functioning is extremely limited, this potential might be 20%, where as if they could not have their disability provisions, they obviously might not even get to this.
For a much more capable student like myself, this potential might be far above what most people might be aiming for, and to others it may seem ridiculous for me to be in disability provisions, and without them I would still get a decent Atar, nothing special, maybe 70-75, but with them I can get much better, maybe 90+ (this might be a crappy mark to some of you, but that's irrelevant).
So I have applied for Disability provisions (rest time, 5min /half hour) which will greatly improve my capacity to achieve my potential (yeah this is starting to sound repetitive, handle it) but in lodging an application i had to (as did all other applicants) undergo a special written examination without any provisions, from which, along with medical reports, assessments, teacher comments etc, my grant will be approved or denied. They're not easy to get. But is it fair to dismiss them simply because they seem smart enough already? (I'm starting to sound like a bigot :S blah blah blah my potential xD)
So yeah, this chick is a whinny bitch and its far too late for her to be kicking up a fuss,
but I ask you, is it fair for someone to be restricted from achieving their potential, simply because they would go alright anyway?
Did you just read what you wrote? Reality check much.
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LOL Reality check IDD.
jens do you happen to have frequent arguments with yourself?
ITT: people bitching and moaning as much as that chick, only about private schools instead of a system which they were also welcome to exploit if they wanted to
Does it actually cost anything to apply for special provisions? If it doesn't then I don't see how being rich allowed her to exploit it any more so than anyone else.
Apparently it's okay to base an opinion off one example, so my own personal anecdote/counter-example: I have a private school friend with genuine writing problems after snapping a tendon in her wrist or something and she's genuinely worried she may not pass her HSC because of it (she's smart enough) and can't get any provisions - despite actually needing them.
Does it actually cost anything to apply for special provisions? If it doesn't then I don't see how being rich allowed her to exploit it any more so than anyone else.
Apparently it's okay to base an opinion off one example, so my own personal anecdote/counter-example: I have a private school friend with genuine writing problems after snapping a tendon in her wrist or something and she's genuinely worried she may not pass her HSC because of it (she's smart enough) and can't get any provisions - despite actually needing them.
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The decision is in. She lost the case.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/not-high-enough-student-loses-appeal-over-9995-mark-20120703-21etp.html
http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action/PJUDG?jgmtid=159477
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/not-high-enough-student-loses-appeal-over-9995-mark-20120703-21etp.html
http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action/PJUDG?jgmtid=159477
I'm glad. I never would have imagined that she'd win the case but if she did that would be quite ridiculous.
Other than just the stupidity of the case. If they let this through imagine the slew of people who will also sue.
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I get the vibe that the daughter doesn't actually care about this, with the mother in reality being the driving force behind this.
I could imagine her bragging to her friends that her daughter got 99.95 and then the friends asking why she didn't get 100. Asian mothers are typically characterised by this pushy attitude so I wouldn't be surprised if this one was one of the more extreme.
I could imagine her bragging to her friends that her daughter got 99.95 and then the friends asking why she didn't get 100. Asian mothers are typically characterised by this pushy attitude so I wouldn't be surprised if this one was one of the more extreme.
It may appear this way but the party suing is "the daughter" not "the mother".
So obviously the daughter cared enough to have her name out there.