Does it matter what uni you go to for Law? (2 Viewers)

[hungwell1337]

so, if I don't get the ATAR for unsw or usyd, and something around 97....should I be looking towards anu (go8 uni + moving out of home) or uts and macq (non go8 + staying home)?

goto unsw/usyd and transfer after 1st year

 

[noddis911]

They don't go hmm a Usyd graduate ... Very nice hi5!

Slack Davo, just cause I wanna go to USyd now to do commerce instead of MACQU ;/

I guess what peeps are saying

Cute!

In all honesty this thread is a bit of a joke. Are you 12?

In all honesty I am 12

 

[alstah]

It's not where you go that matters! It's what you do with where you went, that matters!

Also, let me refer you to Suits season 1 episode 1: "We need people who think on their feet, not another clone with a rod up his ass"

 

[acemusic415]

It's not where you go that matters! It's what you do with where you went, that matters!

Also, let me refer you to Suits season 1 episode 1: "We need people who think on their feet, not another clone with a rod up his ass"

I love that line in Suits! <3

 

[Omnipotence]

Harvey: Take the drama down a notch, Juliet. [To Mike] HAHAHA

 

[Aerath]

Generally speaking ^this^, especially whats in bold. Some employers look at prestige more closely than others, whilst many ignore it all together. I've spoken to the lawyer in charge of graduate recruitment at a top law firm and she told me flat out that they dont look at prestige at all when hiring. She said that they focus on uni marks, extra ciriculars, work experience and especially personality. Overall, I'd say that a person who has these four attributes will find it very easy to find a job, regardless of whether they went to Usyd or UWS.

Also, many are under the misconception that uni prestige matters due to the weight it is given in the US. The US have a vastly different tertiary education system, where getting into a university requires much more than simply an arbitrary mark like the Australian system, which accounts for why employers in the US focus more on prestige.

I'm indifferent to the rest of your post - however, I'd like to point out a mistake in the bolded part of your post.

Head of graduate recruitment at top-tier law firms are never lawyers. They're HR specialists. They're not qualified lawyers, they haven't done law degrees, they've usually done either Psychology, Arts, Management, or any combination thereof.

Whilst Head of Graduate Recruitment is part of the team that will cull your resume/application, and may be part of the team that cull you after the first interview - human resources have very little to do once you get to the second interview, in which case, a partner or SA or lawyer will interview you. Whilst the HR people may not care much for prestige, lawyers, as we all know, are pretty arrogant and care about that prestige shit, so it may affect you there.

 

[mitchy_boy]

PRESTIGE IS EVERYTHING

everything

 

[Cl324]

It's not where you go that matters! It's what you do with where you went, that matters!

Also, let me refer you to Suits season 1 episode 1: "We need people who think on their feet, not another clone with a rod up his ass"

Yet Harvey's firm only hire exclusively from Harvard LOL

TBH i think prestige matters a whole lot. Theres an oversupply of law students atm.
Say UNSW and USYD churn out over 250 grads each. (this is only for undergrad btw theres also JD and postgrads and you'll prob be competing with our of staters too)
thats already 500+ people and if there are two identical students from USYD and UWS an employer would pick USYD 99% of the time
Im not saying its impossible to find a good job with degrees from lower tier unis but you probably have to have something spectacular to make up for it.

 

[rayy_bann]

However, how can we say for sure that employers don't AT ALL look at the university factor? Employers are only human. And as humans, many of us are attracted to the more popular option as seen through certain materialistic goods, for some, only because of the status symbol.


So why can't employers make decisions similar to this? In this case, picking the student from the more socially popular university based on academic competitiveness and reputation. Especially when they are faced with the dilemma of choosing between two students, one from a more prestigious university, but both have the same grades and achievements. There is MORE reason to choose the student from the more prestigious university. Its all in their discretion after all right?


Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we cannot make definite statements on who law firms will employ based on a person's tertiary study. we don't know how employers think 100%. We can only speculate by thinking what is more attractive, as a human being, who would people generally pick.


Nonetheless, wherever you are, if you try your best, stand out from the crowd both academically and in the extra curricular fields, there is no real reason you cannot be competitive enough for a job. Good luck!

 

[Omnidragon]

Hey guys, does it really matter which uni you to study law? For job prospect reasons?
Do employers look highly upon uni graduates from unsw, usyd, anu or melbourne? Or will they look the same upon uni graduates from uts, maq, notre dame...
Considering that everything else is the same, e.g. marks, attitude and knowledge

PLEASE HELP

Does it matter how much you get paid?

Well I guess if it did you wouldn't have done law in the first place.

 

[OzKo]

However, how can we say for sure that employers don't AT ALL look at the university factor? Employers are only human. And as humans, many of us are attracted to the more popular option as seen through certain materialistic goods, for some, only because of the status symbol.


So why can't employers make decisions similar to this? In this case, picking the student from the more socially popular university based on academic competitiveness and reputation. Especially when they are faced with the dilemma of choosing between two students, one from a more prestigious university, but both have the same grades and achievements. There is MORE reason to choose the student from the more prestigious university. Its all in their discretion after all right?


Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we cannot make definite statements on who law firms will employ based on a person's tertiary study. we don't know how employers think 100%. We can only speculate by thinking what is more attractive, as a human being, who would people generally pick.


Nonetheless, wherever you are, if you try your best, stand out from the crowd both academically and in the extra curricular fields, there is no real reason you cannot be competitive enough for a job. Good luck!

This pretty much sums up the argument. Debate all you want on matters regarding prestige and its influence on graduate jobs, but if you actively look to do one better, shit like this doesn't matter.

 

[Omnidragon]

Not sure how some of you can sound so authoritative when you haven't set a step in to the real world.