This is why gays/lesbians can't have kids (3 Viewers)

[Garygaz]

progressive lefts are progressing the world into a cesspool of filth

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8361715/controversial-treatment-for-boy-who-wants-to-be-girl

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old US boy have taken the controversial step of giving their son hormone blockers to delay puberty after he expressed a desire to become a girl.

California couple Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel decided to start the hormone blocking therapy after son Tommy decided he wanted to be a girl, according to Fox News.

The treatment will delay the onset of puberty until Tommy — who now goes by the name Tammy — is 14 or 15, giving him more time to explore the female identity he has assumed.

Moreno and Lobel said their son started to identify as a female from the time he was three, insisting to his parents that he was a girl.

After threatening genital mutilation at the age of seven, Tommy was diagnosed with gender identity disorder by psychiatrists, which ultimately led to the decision to try the hormone therapy.

"He was in his own world just completely detached and that was a problem we always had — getting Thomas to participate in life,' Moreno told the Mail. "What we saw emerge when Tammy was allowed to be Tammy is, 'Whoa!' It was an immediate transformation. She was so giggly and she was now interacting she was now making it a point to defend herself."

But critics have blasted the move as "child abuse" and say this type of therapy at such a young age could have severe consequences.

"I think that it's highly inappropriate to be interfering with natural hormonal growth patterns,” senior managing health editor Alvarez said on foxnews.com. "There are significant potential problems necessary for growth and development.

"Potential long-term effects can include other abnormalities of hormones, vascular complications and even potential cancer."

Dr Paul McHugh, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University, agreed with Alvarez. "This is child abuse. It's like performing liposuction on an anorexic child," he said.

"It is a disorder of the mind. Not a disorder of the body. Dealing with it in this way is not dealing with the problem that truly exists.

"We shouldn't be mucking around with nature. We can't assume what the outcome will be," McHugh told foxnews.com.

 

[cosmo kramer]

lesbians are faking it

 

[cosmo kramer]

anybody else notice the sharp incongruity between lesbians on t.v and in porno and lesbians irl

 

[Garygaz]

unfortunately, yes

 

[Lolsmith]

painfully yes

 

[SylviaB]

holy shit


that is bad

 

[Lentern]

I don't see the issue here at all, if the child self identifies as a girl? I don't see how it's any better to force the child to struggle with it all through school then get the surgery once she's eighteen.

 

[cosmo kramer]

i sympathise with transgendered people

they are obviously severely messed up and have brains that are very different from the brains of other people of their sex

but the whole sex change operation thing and calling them another sex is just silly it's like an enormous game of make believe with everybody pretending that somebody with cut up tits or a mutilated cock and gouged disgusting 'vagina' hole is now magically somebody of another sex

its fantasy and pretending for sake of sentimentality and sensitivity

 

[SylviaB]

I don't see the issue here at all

maybe, just MAYBE, there's something of a causal relationship between being raised by lesbians and, you know, having huge gender issues

 

[Lentern]

i sympathise with transgendered people

they are obviously severely messed up and have brains that are very different from the brains of other people of their sex

but the whole sex change operation thing and calling them another sex is just silly it's like an enormous game of make believe with everybody pretending that somebody with cut up tits or a mutilated cock and gouged disgusting 'vagina' hole is now magically somebody of another sex

its fantasy and pretending for sake of sentimentality and sensitivity

It's done for the sake of sentimentality for sure, but why on earth should that make it fantastic?

 

[Lentern]

maybe, just MAYBE, there's something of a causal relationship between being raised by lesbians and, you know, having huge gender issues

Certainly, growing up in a tolerant, open minded, progressive environment like that probably makes it easier for the child to confront the the truth rather than repress it and soldier on in miserable denial for another twenty years.

 

[cosmo kramer]

It's done for the sake of sentimentality for sure, but why on earth should that make it fantastic?

i mean the pretending is to allow the transgendered person to live in a fantasy world where he/she feels like everybody else thinks he/she is actually a person of the opposite sex when in fact they are all just lying to their face

mutilated genital and breast people

 

[cosmo kramer]

maybe, just MAYBE, there's something of a causal relationship between being raised by lesbians and, you know, having huge gender issues

possible

but i highly doubt it

im certain that transgenderedness is some sort of congenital defect (yes defect) and the sooner we find a way to stop it from happening the better

 

[SylviaB]

do you at least acknoelege that it is infact an illness, and not "the way they really are"


fuck do you even believe in gender

 

[Lentern]

i mean the pretending is to allow the transgendered person to live in a fantasy world where he/she feels like everybody else thinks he/she is actually a person of the opposite sex when in fact they are all just lying to their face

mutilated genital and breast people

Now you're just being silly. If either were dishonest than masquerading under the facade of your original physical attributes is far more deceitful than changing them.

 

[cosmo kramer]

Now you're just being silly. If either were dishonest than masquerading under the facade of your original physical attributes is far more deceitful than changing them.

wat

 

[Lentern]

do you at least acknoelege that it is infact an illness, and not "the way they really are"


fuck do you even believe in gender

I expect this from bible bashing evangelicals not you. No it's not an illness, in most western countries that view is the prevailing view of the medical profession.

Edit: As a biological phenomenon yes, as a social construct not so much.

 

[Ivorytw]

same as pretending an ugly girl wearing makeup is attractive. Doesn't hurt you, makes them feel better.

If he can trick you into thinking he is a girl then I suppose it's better for him mentally and what difference does it make to you?

 

[Lentern]

wat

It's quite simple Cosmo I think the intellectual and emotional make up of a person is more significant in determining who and what they are than physical attributes.

 

[cosmo kramer]

It's quite simple Cosmo I think the intellectual and emotional make up of a person is more significant in determining who and what they are than physical attributes.

maybe like

dna and stuff like that