Kim spends $100,000-$200,000 on pets a year!! YAY!! (2 Viewers)

[scuba_steve2121]

True. 1984 revisited. Though social change is evident time and time again throughout history, even in the strictest dictatorats.

Or we could just wait for NK to piss someone off really bad...

or they will do what every other communist country did that didn't collapse and adopt capitalism but keep a one party state

 

[krnofdrg]

And jewish people love capitalism. (lol i joke, i'm just a bastard)

On topic: Someone needs to take out Kim Jong Il out Gaddafi style.

We would love to take him out Gadhafi STYLE.. except were in a verryyyy risky condition..

thousands and thousands of artillery and guns positioned at our capital region which is very densely populated (22million people, that's whole population of Australia in one small area).. So we invade kim's land , they would fire at us powerfully .... and we know kim will retaliate harshly because he's a crazy bastard....

the cost is too high ... lets just wait for a regime fall YAY!!

 

[antonio primo]

take out kim gadaffi style

as in spend months funding and assisting a bunch of rebels in north korea that are so incompetent that a whole column of them can be sent into a swift retreat by a single sniper, differ about it for ages and then capture pyongyang only to have kim escape without a trace probably never to be found again

takin him out bad

 

[Chemical Ali]

On topic: Someone needs to take out Kim Jong Il out Gaddafi style.

more like this style

 

[Funky Monk]

http://kimil-sung.com/

lol ~$700 000 on cognac a year

 

[cheezcake]

you know Christianity is incompatible with capitalism logic right

Fixed.

 

[boris]

please don't bring religion into this. you seem to hate me some reason since im christian.

its because you're an idiot

 

[Lentern]

NK is a totalitarian state, its secured to the point where the people know almost nothing of the outside world.

Official propaganda says that NK is the richest nation in the world and all other nations are evil and jealous.

ideas of freedom and capitalism don't exist in NK.

it was these ideas along with the poverty created by a socialist state that brought down the USSR

thus the people can't rise up, because the idea of 'revolution' doesn't exist

Nah the facades been cracking ever since that soccer match.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

Nah the facades been cracking ever since that soccer match.

how long do you give it then? 20-30 years before total collapse?

I've talked to a friend who went there for a holiday just to see what it was like. they are all really as fucked up as I say. they're all 5 foot and under, super mal-nourished, and many believe the official propaganda, you have one or two guides with you all the time, so you can't even attempt to tell the people about the outside world

 

[boris]

they wont last the decade

 

[krnofdrg]

its because you're an idiot

ironic coming from you..

 

[krnofdrg]

how long do you give it then? 20-30 years before total collapse?

I've talked to a friend who went there for a holiday just to see what it was like. they are all really as fucked up as I say. they're all 5 foot and under, super mal-nourished, and many believe the official propaganda, you have one or two guides with you all the time, so you can't even attempt to tell the people about the outside world

just wait until jong-un gets in power.. then the regime will surely collapse...

 

[Lentern]

how long do you give it then? 20-30 years before total collapse?

I've talked to a friend who went there for a holiday just to see what it was like. they are all really as fucked up as I say. they're all 5 foot and under, super mal-nourished, and many believe the official propaganda, you have one or two guides with you all the time, so you can't even attempt to tell the people about the outside world

I was joking, I can't see any sort of resistance occurring from the grass roots but as in all regimes the support of the military is king and I suppose it's possible that after Kim Jong Ill carks it the myth of his immortality will obviously take a blow and his son may not have the same absolute loyalty of the senior generals and once some sort of power tussle between the institutionalized government and the military occurs anything can happen. But if the new guy manages to balance the military hierarchy properly the only way I can see things changing much is through outside military intervention. The US is way too hands tied to try anything like it, the noises from the PRC is that they've got no interest in being the world police once they overtake the US. If it rallies economically, perhaps Europe but unlikely and at any rate the Bush doctrine was well and truly rubbished by the Iraq fiasco.

Really the only way I can see someone getting involved is if the DPRK starts something with South Korea, I think China would then come to support the south and the terms of surrender (the DPRK wouldn't win) could include some stuff about reform alla Japan 1949.

But really, I think maybe a 20% chance something will happen with the military after Kim calls it a day, maybe 5% outside intervention will occur, overwhelmingly likely we will never see the DPRK liberated in any substantial way.