YR 11 STUDENT, please help. (2 Viewers)

[da_flame]

Hi,
I am planning to drop maths extension 1 next year.
This means that ill be left with 11 units, so would it be smart to drop it or keep it even if i dont do good?
If i fail Ext 1 Math, it wont be part of my best 10 units, therefore not affecting my ATAR.
But will failing the Ext 1 Math course, be fine or is it necessary for me to pass it to proceed?

Thank You in advance

 

[SpiralFlex]

Hi,
I am planning to drop maths extension 1 next year.
This means that ill be left with 11 units, so would it be smart to drop it or keep it even if i dont do good?
If i fail Ext 1 Math, it wont be part of my best 10 units, therefore not affecting my ATAR.
But will failing the Ext 1 Math course, be fine or is it necessary for me to pass it to proceed?

Thank You in advanced

I shall try to comprehend what you are saying. What marks are you getting currently and also are you enjoying it?

 

[da_flame]

I shall try to comprehend what you are saying. What marks are you getting currently and also are you enjoying it?

umm my marks are very bad, they have all been failures except one
and no im not enjoying it at all. but will keeping it help me in anyway?
and am i allowed to fail a HSC subject thats not part of the 10 units?

 

[x_cp3]

Drop it if you are failing. No point in keeping it for the fact of scaling, as it won't do you much good if you're getting crappy marks.

 

[Gigacube]

umm my marks are very bad, they have all been failures except one
and no im not enjoying it at all. but will keeping it help me in anyway?
and am i allowed to fail a HSC subject thats not part of the 10 units?

You can fail as long as you are making an attempt at the work otherwise it may result in an 'N' Award.

What uni courses are you looking to get into?

If you are failing & have no motivation to improve then I suggest you drop extension so you have more free time for other subjects.

 

[da_flame]

You can fail as long as you are making an attempt at the work otherwise it may result in an 'N' Award.

What uni courses are you looking to get into?

If you are failing & have no motivation to improve then I suggest you drop extension so you have more free time for other subjects.

Thanks for clarifying that. I want to do Engineering, and start of with a flexible first year either at UNSW or UTS.

well i do have motivation just that in my school every thing is cramped together, so i cant really focus on it.
Am i allowed to drop the Ext 1 Math unit anytime during Yr 12?

 

[SpiralFlex]

Thanks for clarifying that. I want to do Engineering, and start of with a flexible first year either at UNSW or UTS.

well i do have motivation just that in my school every thing is cramped together, so i cant really focus on it.
Am i allowed to drop the Ext 1 Math unit anytime during Yr 12?

Not too sure about any time, you will have to get your school to confirm that. Assuming you are in Preliminary, see how you go for this year. I wanted to drop IPT for next year, then changed my mind to drop SDD, then Engineering. Don't rule out any possibilities just yet.

 

[sinophile]

Hi,
I am planning to drop maths extension 1 next year.
This means that ill be left with 11 units, so would it be smart to drop it or keep it even if i dont do good?
If i fail Ext 1 Math, it wont be part of my best 10 units, therefore not affecting my ATAR.
But will failing the Ext 1 Math course, be fine or is it necessary for me to pass it to proceed?

Thank You in advance

Do you want the truth?

If you plan to go on through to uni, certain subjects require math extension 1 knowledge and you'll struggle without it. There are bridging courses you take over summer after year 12, but the quality of education is less than that you get in high school. You might choose to keep it simply because you'll need it in uni, but at the same time you dont want it dragging down your other subjects. Weigh the two.

The second aspect to be considered is getting used to the fast pace. I'd personally keep maths extension one and see whether I found some kind of strength that allowed me to cope. If you do happen to drop, you'll bring your advanced study techniques and habits into two unit, giving you a distinct advantage over everyone else (who probably have gotten used to the slower pace). This psychological advantage is quite real, and very powerful.

If you keep it, you'll be forced to spend a few extra hours a week studying purely for maths ext.1, which could potentially drag down your other subjects. But, cmon, be honest. If those hours get freed up are you really going to spend them studying? If I were in your shoes I certainly wouldnt. I'd fucking spend them playing games.

 

[Lolsmith]

Do you want the truth?

If you plan to go on through to uni, certain subjects require math extension 1 knowledge and you'll struggle without it. There are bridging courses you take over summer after year 12, but the quality of education is less than that you get in high school. You might choose to keep it simply because you'll need it in uni, but at the same time you dont want it dragging down your other subjects. Weigh the two.

The second aspect to be considered is getting used to the fast pace. I'd personally keep maths extension one and see whether I found some kind of strength that allowed me to cope. If you do happen to drop, you'll bring your advanced study techniques and habits into two unit, giving you a distinct advantage over everyone else (who probably have gotten used to the slower pace). This psychological advantage is quite real, and very powerful.

If you keep it, you'll be forced to spend a few extra hours a week studying purely for maths ext.1, which could potentially drag down your other subjects. But, cmon, be honest. If those hours get freed up are you really going to spend them studying? If I were in your shoes I certainly wouldnt. I'd fucking spend them playing games.

First year Engineering student at UNSW

Never used 3 unit work only basic 2 unit stuff yet they teach you the 4 unit stuff

 

[da_flame]

Do you want the truth?

If you plan to go on through to uni, certain subjects require math extension 1 knowledge and you'll struggle without it. There are bridging courses you take over summer after year 12, but the quality of education is less than that you get in high school. You might choose to keep it simply because you'll need it in uni, but at the same time you dont want it dragging down your other subjects. Weigh the two.

The second aspect to be considered is getting used to the fast pace. I'd personally keep maths extension one and see whether I found some kind of strength that allowed me to cope. If you do happen to drop, you'll bring your advanced study techniques and habits into two unit, giving you a distinct advantage over everyone else (who probably have gotten used to the slower pace). This psychological advantage is quite real, and very powerful.

If you keep it, you'll be forced to spend a few extra hours a week studying purely for maths ext.1, which could potentially drag down your other subjects. But, cmon, be honest. If those hours get freed up are you really going to spend them studying? If I were in your shoes I certainly wouldnt. I'd fucking spend them playing games.

I was actually thinking of taking the Bridging Course for Engineering, but now that youve said that its quality of education is lower than school , ill reconsider it.

But even if i dont study those extra hours, at least i'll have sometime to relax, rather than stressing my self out. Right?

 

[da_flame]

First year Engineering student at UNSW

Never used 3 unit work only basic 2 unit stuff yet they teach you the 4 unit stuff

So you havent learnt any 3 unit stuff, and your not expecting any?

 

[Lolsmith]

So you havent learnt any 3 unit stuff, and your not expecting any?

No, our lecturers basically haven't used anything to do with 3 unit. They've taught us a fair bit of 4 unit (complex numbers and stuff), but they don't really do anything to do with 3 unit.

 

[sinophile]

No, our lecturers basically haven't used anything to do with 3 unit. They've taught us a fair bit of 4 unit (complex numbers and stuff), but they don't really do anything to do with 3 unit.

That is true- you don't actually use any of the 3-unit stuff for engineering. I certainly didn't and I'm in second year. The uni teaches you everything you need to know.

The uni probably set the 3-unit pre-req because kids who've only done 2-unit (most likely) don't have the skills to be able to cope with the large amount of calculations in engineering.

There are exceptions: 2-unit students who innately rock at maths but for some reason didn't choose a higher math course, and students who simply work hard enough to be able to fight the uni work at a level equal to a 3-unit or 4-unit kid.

 

[sinophile]

I was actually thinking of taking the Bridging Course for Engineering, but now that youve said that its quality of education is lower than school , ill reconsider it.

But even if i dont study those extra hours, at least i'll have sometime to relax, rather than stressing my self out. Right?

Don't get me wrong though, the bridging course is still pretty good. The crappiest thing that could happen to you is taking math ext.1 so you could hack uni engineering, only to have the subject drag down your atar so much you can't meet the atar cutoff.

as for your second point, thats true. try to find a good equilibrium between resting and working.

 

[da_flame]

Don't get me wrong though, the bridging course is still pretty good. The crappiest thing that could happen to you is taking math ext.1 so you could hack uni engineering, only to have the subject drag down your atar so much you can't meet the atar cutoff.

as for your second point, thats true. try to find a good equilibrium between resting and working.

Well Im pretty sure, that i would fit into both the exeptions you stated.
but will i still get into engineering without Math Ext1? Or do the chances of getting my course go down?
Did you take the bridging course or did you do it at school?

 

[Drongoski]

To cut a long story short: if you can't handle Ext 1 Maths - forget Engineering. Forget all this bridging course stuff and that 3u Maths is not directly used; they are important directly or indirectly.

I've seen so many earlier posts where students struggling in maths want to do Engineering. C'mon. Get real.

 

[Lolsmith]

Yeah if you struggle in maths don't do a stream of engineering that is reliant on mathematics/physics (ie: all of them except software and computer). I was just pointing out that it's not 100% necessary on a theory base to do Engineering.

Well Im pretty sure, that i would fit into both the exeptions you stated.
but will i still get into engineering without Math Ext1? Or do the chances of getting my course go down?
Did you take the bridging course or did you do it at school?

You can get into Engineering without doing maths at all. I know dudes that didn't even do General maths and did 4U+ in uni afterwards with no issues.

You *should* do 2U so you understand integration, differentiation, curve sketching, etc. etc. it'd save you some time and money, but after that don't even bother unless you can do well in order to help your ATAR.

 

[sinophile]

Well Im pretty sure, that i would fit into both the exeptions you stated.
but will i still get into engineering without Math Ext1? Or do the chances of getting my course go down?
Did you take the bridging course or did you do it at school?

I think if you meet the ATAR requirement you'll def. get in. The issue is whether you'll cope when you're in there.

I took math ext.1 in school, and considered chucking it away for the same reason you are: it was an extra unit and potentially a timesink. i kept it because i wanted engineering and i didnt consider bridging courses at the time.

 

[Drongoski]

You can get into Engineering without doing maths at all. I know dudes that didn't even do General maths and did 4U+ in uni afterwards with no issues.

They must have dumbed down Engineering further than I thought.

 

[da_flame]

I think if you meet the ATAR requirement you'll def. get in. The issue is whether you'll cope when you're in there.

I took math ext.1 in school, and considered chucking it away for the same reason you are: it was an extra unit and potentially a timesink. i kept it because i wanted engineering and i didnt consider bridging courses at the time.

Well did keeping Maths Ext1, help you at all? With your ATAR and with uni?